Thread: Got NBN at work what a joke

Originally Posted by Slunnie

Sad thing is when they have to rip it all out and do it properly. Not going fibre was the most stupid decision ever made in what should have been a brilliant system. Sadly it probably cost more to run that copper to your house than glass.

You got fibre?
I have.

It's over rated. Gav's FTTN is ripping along faster than my FTTH. I can post up some worringly slow speeds.
NBNco infrastructure is just fine. It's your ISP who are responsible for the poor service. Something to do with lack of bandwidth.

The speed you get depends on the slowest link in the chain between you and the website you are accessing. This may be the NBN infrastructure, but for many people it will be their RSP's infrastructure, and where you are on FTTN, both the copper wire to your house and the wiring in your house.

Congestion and hence slow speeds in peak hours is most common on NBN infrastructure on aggregated POIs and for some of those on wireless. The way NBN implements their "FUP" on satellite causes congestion issues in some circumstances.

Some recent articles suggest that some of the worst "RSP" slowdowns are for those RSPs that use Optus backhaul, with allegations that Optus is selling capacity that does not exist. But you can expect the worst slowdowns to come from RSPs that sell cheap "unlimited plans", as the "cheap" means they are not buying much backhaul per customer, and the "unlimited" means they will have a lot of customers who use a lot of data.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

. It's your ISP who are responsible for the poor service. Something to do with lack of bandwidth.

your ISP have to pay NBN for CVC and NBN charge a ****load for it.

Originally Posted by 12rrs

.... max speed 3mb per sec with Optus nbn. was getting 7mb per sec on adsl2+ with Telstra. Great upgrade.

....How close you are to the exchange is the most important thing doesn't matter nbn or adsl.

You should have stuck with Telstra as they are one of the best performers on the NBN while Optus being the opposite due to congestion.

Distance to Exchange has nothing to do with the performance of NBN, specifically FTTN NBN. It is the distance between the subscriber and the node that affects the maximum speed possible AND, the Retail Service Provider (RSP) eg Optus in your case.If the RSP has not bought enough Connectivity Virtual Circuit (CVC) from NBN then it will not matter whether you are on FTTP or best case FTTN, you will slow down to a crawl when their (RSP not NBN) network gets busy.

Originally Posted by Sitec

Not sure why the NBN was a 'must have' when the wireless works so well, and is also mobile! Ideal for the truck!

Wireless (or rather mobile) is fine for standard internet use but becomes very expensive if you want to usee more data. At this point in time it is also limited in the speeds it can reach but as always, technology is advancing. It will never perform as well or be as cheap as wired internet.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Actually, I have seen pointed out that the fundamental issue with the NBN was there from the very start. This is the requirement that it make money.

In the political situation that it was introduced, it had to be "off-budget", and this meant it had to be designed to make money, resulting in unacceptably high CVC prices, and, indeed, the whole concept of charging by speed. The second fundamental problem is 121 POIs round the country, which is responsible for many of the other problems (this was insisted on by the ACCC), and makes it very hard for small players to get into the RSP business.

Spot on John, I am not opposed to it "having to make money". rather than it making money based on speed it should be based on data. This would mean that all users are able to access at the same speed. Light users pay less heavy users pay more.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

You got fibre?
I have.

It's over rated. Gav's FTTN is ripping along faster than my FTTH. I can post up some worringly slow speeds.
NBNco infrastructure is just fine. It's your ISP who are responsible for the poor service. Something to do with lack of bandwidth.

Commiserations Mick, this is a perfect example of CVC restriction at the RSP level affecting the end user experience. No one can say the technology is an issue in your case. Hopefully you can boot your provider and find one that has the capacity to service your needs.

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Anyway, this article is a good one for understanding the issues surrounding CVC:
NBN Congestion Is Forcing ISPs To Build Their Own Private Networks | Gizmodo Australia

And for those that like pictures, the article contains an excellent GIF of the effect that an inadequately provisioned CVC (by RSP) has on your internet performance.
https://edge.alluremedia.com.au/m/g/...congestion.gif

I don't know. I have found myself using my 4G connection on my phone over my DSL wifi at home more often than not. Telstra has gotten worse over the last couple years it seems. May just be my router, I don't know. I'm kinda ignorant when it comes to the science and mechanics of internet transmission, but I know what works better and what doesn't. Just don't know why or how....😊

I am with Optus NBN with fibre to the house & battery backup. We have had it for about 18 months & the 50/25 speed I am supposed to get has gradually dropped off depending on the time of day.
Right now its 45/18 but sometimes gets down to 25/8 or thereabouts. The VOIP phone is crap & I am stuck with the supplied modem because they won't give me the VIOP settings to put into a decent modem. I tried complaining but it seems complaints is up the stairs on the 44th floor in a building in another country.
The plan is unlimited though which suits the kids I suppose although they often complain about download speeds..

Originally Posted by Milton477

The VOIP phone is crap & I am stuck with the supplied modem because they won't give me the VIOP settings to put into a decent modem

that crap from optus. most ISP's give those details in their support page.

look on whirlpool, i bet the detials are posted there

Originally Posted by Milton477

I am with Optus NBN with fibre to the house & battery backup. We have had it for about 18 months & the 50/25 speed I am supposed to get has gradually dropped off depending on the time of day.
Right now its 45/18 but sometimes gets down to 25/8 or thereabouts. The VOIP phone is crap & I am stuck with the supplied modem because they won't give me the VIOP settings to put into a decent modem. I tried complaining but it seems complaints is up the stairs on the 44th floor in a building in another country.
The plan is unlimited though which suits the kids I suppose although they often complain about download speeds..

As Eevo said... Whirlpool might help:
Optus NBN - router admin access, using a BYO router with VOIP - Optus Broadband - Whirlpool Forums