Got NBN at work what a joke

**Mick_Marsh** · 14th April 2017, 06:25 PM

My mother had NBN installed four months back.
Phone only, no internet. They replaced the phone socket on the wall with a dual socket and paralleled them up They then ran a patch lead from the UNI-V port on the connection box to the telephone socket. This connects all the telephones in the house to the NBN connection box. The power supply beside it has an integrated UPS. On power failure, the UNI-V port is maintained, however, the UNI-D ports are not.
When you purchase a "bundle", the ISP supplies a router which plugs into the UNI-D port. All your equipment (computer, router, printer, phone, etc.) plug into that router. Depending on the setup, you could have one, two or three boxes on the wall.

Attached are photos of my mothers telephone only installation.
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**jx2mad** · 14th April 2017, 09:31 PM

So the nbn box is not a wifi router?

**Mick_Marsh** · 14th April 2017, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by jx2mad

So the nbn box is not a wifi router?

No. The NBN connection box basically converts your fibre connection to a 100Base-T Ethernet. Each service comes in on one port only. Your ISP will supply a wireless router or, if you can find out the settings, you can use your own. If you know the settings, you can plug one computer into it, or so I am told.

**AndyG** · 15th April 2017, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Hall

A NBN crew turned up to bring the cable to the factory. Copper coaxial cable that is , tv antenna cable. Not just to the factory but the whole way from exchange. So it is a bit heavier than telephone cable. Bloke doing the install totally agreed it is a joke. Said they are banking on probability to give some users better internet. What this means is there are three speeds available. They are hoping that most users will opt for the lowest speed, thus allowing for some to have higher speeds. If every one opts for the fastest speed it is not going to happen. Which is one of the reasons some users have got slower speeds. To many in there area opting for the higher speeds.
The company I work for has the main factory and a smaller one across the road. The Smaller one is only used for rebuilding of machines. It has been stripped of its offices and lunch room for more room. NBN bloke turned up and asks where is the phone. States that they have on record a working phone. Has not been any phone for some ten years. This revelation caused him to choke on his chips. One of those types that if there system says there is a phone then they can`t be wrong. Well they where wrong this time. Had to actually walk him around the factory to convince him. And this is the mob who is installing our NBN
Cheers Hall

I suspect your Company was paying for this non existant service all these years.
I know a Bank that hsd ovrr 2000 services cancelled after a physical audit

**AndyG** · 15th April 2017, 10:00 AM

Yet to suffer the joys of NBN, foxtel coax is very nice thankyou.

I m not a Communications Engineer but i have been the Manager of the two largest ISP in PNG and have the scars to prove it.
imho
NBN was doomed from day 1.
It was a politicians thought bubble.
It did not address the importance of international links
As far as i know NBN does not cache, especially at the local evel, ie exchange
It should have resticted itself to an Uber service to Exchanges, universities, hospitals, and other large campuses. And left the lwst mile to the isp.
While fibre is premo, there is nothing inherently wrong with copper or wireless if configured correctly
VSAT will always be slow, get over it. But if rain sffected i guess its Ku band not C, probably to keep base station costs down.
No 1 enemy is the contention ratio, how many users share that bandwidth. Its an old game to move the users around, to reduce contention temporary
ask your rsp or isp what is the guaranteed contention, then ask about speed.

DiscoMick · 16th April 2017, 08:11 AM

When our router was replaced the installer said all our neighbours were on the same default frequency and reset it to a spare frequency no-one else was using, so now it's faster.

**jx2mad** · 16th April 2017, 03:32 PM

My problem as I see it will be that all the boxes will be at the front of the house near the entry point and I want to set up my pc at the rear of the house. I think I may need to buy a wireless dongle. Slow again!!!

Or do away with the pc and run laptop.

**Eevo** · 16th April 2017, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by jx2mad

My problem as I see it will be that all the boxes will be at the front of the house near the entry point and I want to set up my pc at the rear of the house. I think I may need to buy a wireless dongle. Slow again!!!

Or do away with the pc and run laptop.

cat6 through the roof

**Mick_Marsh** · 16th April 2017, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by jx2mad

My problem as I see it will be that all the boxes will be at the front of the house near the entry point and I want to set up my pc at the rear of the house. I think I may need to buy a wireless dongle. Slow again!!!

Or do away with the pc and run laptop.

As Eevo says, cat6. What can you run on that, 1Gbps? I still only have 100Mbps in the house.
Wireless N ( the fast one ) is only about 300Mbps.

**Eevo** · 16th April 2017, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

As Eevo says, cat6. What can you run on that, 1Gbps? I still only have 100Mbps in the house.
Wireless N ( the fast one ) is only about 300Mbps.

cat6 can do 1gbps. (can do more but the hardware is expensive and not home grade)

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