Thread: Am I Too Sensitive?

What an amazing forum - I have enjoyed reading everyone's responses. The responses by everyone have been so good. The issues and different perspectives enlightening. It highlights the need for a magazine and the journalists to be un-biased and provide reports and views that don't reflect their biased.
Based on your encouragement I will send a "letter to the editor" of Pat Callinan magazine and see what the response is - I bet you it will be along the lines of - we were only joking and we all love LR
Cheers and thanks

I was at Balcanoona lying under my 1976 Series III changing the fuel pump when a passer-by commented "Oh, you're having a Land Rover Holiday!" with a sarcastic grin.
I pointed out to him that his sarcasm had no foundation unless he could produce evidence that whatever he was driving was (a) still going after over 40 years, and (b) that he could fix in the field whatever he was driving using a basic toolkit.
He had no answer...

C00P

Originally Posted by C00P

I was at Balcanoona lying under my 1976 Series III changing the fuel pump when a passer-by commented "Oh, you're having a Land Rover Holiday!" with a sarcastic grin.
I pointed out to him that his sarcasm had no foundation unless he could produce evidence that whatever he was driving was (a) still going after over 40 years, and (b) that he could fix in the field whatever he was driving using a basic toolkit.
He had no answer...

C00P

Supposedly over 50% of all the Landrovers ever built are still going.

DL

Originally Posted by gusthedog

4WD brands hit rock bottom in reliability survey - News - Motoring

Hmmm....

Just to point out that that article is from 2007 ....

For the myth a Defender is, it really is a piece of crap. Very fascinating and charming car, maybe good for extreme off-road conditions and not too complicate for simple repair jobs. But it is a shame that Land Rover keeps so many details crappy and instead of refing one engine keeps on changing it.

I live in Canada we don't get the diesels here
So I set about converting my wife's 2001 frelander and my 2001 disco to diesel using all Land Rover engines gear box etc
My wife has put on about 80000klm on the freelancer including a cross Canada trip
To date I have done one injector and a turbo boost solenoid
My td5 although not as many k since conversion has been unreal as well with just a
Water pump replaced
So I would say that the brand is highly reliable
Has been for me anyway
Brett from Vancouver island

Here is a good story. A mate of mine was looking to buy a 4wd. He loved the D4 I had and wanted one. His other mates and online research had advised him they were unreliable and if they break down you face a massive towing cost and repair bill he 8wouldnt afford after buying the car. Despite my efforts he ended up buying a Toyo -here is the story when I asked how it was going (but he thinks it is a good car):

As for car - disaster! Have loved it and looked after it for the 9 months. Did a 4WD training course and done some light off-roading (my daughter gets terrified on the most simple tracks) and bought a hardcore off-roading camper trailer. Spent heaps on the car and camper - new suspension and lift, winch, AT Toyo tyres, spotlights, roof rack, full servicing etc. then had first first proper trip planned to Grampians for Easter. Get 250kms out of Adelaide towing the camper and engine dies. Mechanic tries replacing injectors and then tells me the engine is stuffed and gives me a bill for 2.5k! Tow car back to Adelaide and now getting quotes for whole new long motor. With some family connections for cheaper Toyota parts I might be able to do it for around $12.5k. Awesome. Anyway I have to fix it and hope the damn thing doesn't do it again. Lost all confidence in the vehicle though which is really sad as it is a really good vehicle (apart from the injector system which causes the engine failure!).

I have owned a number of Landys as well as a couple of toyotas, colorados and fords. I will never have anything other than a LR again. The myth regarding unrelyability stems from the snowy river scheme days. Landrover had the supply contract in the bag until toyota tended for a cheaper alternative which was mass prodused faster (lesser quality), and delivered to australia assembled and ready to go. Landrover had to be imported then assembled for Australian specs. As a result to supply as per demand, quality slipped and people migrated to the readily available Toyotas.

There became the sift to Toyota. Toyota exploited the "unreliability as a sales tactic and so it carries on. I have a mate that has this very week purchased a brand new landcruiser wagon. $90k. Why? Because "Toyota is king"

He then proceeded to tell me, in future he will be hiring a 4x4 to go camping because he cannot financially afford to damage his vehicle in the bush. Crazy huh? If that's the metality of Toyoata owners. I'm glad I have a LR. I have weened a few mates onto LR over the years and apart from the lack of creature compforts, they love them.

The more that others beleive LR are unreliable, the better. More LR for us.

Regards

David Grima
1998 Defender 110
1964 S11 Cab Chasis
1969 S11 Shorty