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    Quote Originally Posted by loanrangie View Post
    If wifey has had a clean record for 5 years a nicely written letter will get her off, I don't understand the 40 zones either but at least they aren't 25 like in SA.
    I know what you mean. Visit SA to go fishing was very cool but a boat behind leaving coming up to suddenly stopping traffic for a 25Km zone on the way home had some smoking tires almost bring a Disco boat and a few up the end of knowledgeable local. Hardest braking I have done for a long time. I honestly had never seen a 25kph zone before in my life!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    Actually, speeding is not a criminal offence, it is a traffic offence.
    Regardless of that speeding offenses still end up on your criminal record
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    Surely you haven't been sucked in by the "Every K over is a killer" malarkey, Trout. Enforcement is more about revenue raising than safety.
    Anyone familiar with the Warego Highway will know the Blacksoil/Muirlea camera, it's in a hollow between a gentle downhill slope and a reasonably steep climb, on an uninterrupted section of divided road, with a 100 kph limit, through undeveloped country. If you have the CC set for 100 kph, your vehicle will be travelling at 103-104 kph at the photo point, within 300 metres the vehicle will be back to 100 kph.
    If authorities were fair dinkum about safety, there would be a greater visible presence of marked police cars, to deter speeding, rather than unmarked cars issuing fines after the event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Regardless of that speeding offenses still end up on your criminal record
    Well, again, not strictly correct.
    VicRoads keeps two different types of record for traffic offences. One is a record of all your offences that have incurred demerit points. Your demerit points record can not be used against you in court. The other is a record of all licence loss infringement notices and traffic related court outcomes. This record will be used against you in court if you lose your court case.
    In Mrs Pickles case, this will not appear on her criminal record, unless she takes it to court.

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    Simple dont speed or break the law on the road`s and you will have nothing to worry about money or point wise

    Yes i am aware of not deliberately or by accidentally speeding but the law is the law
    You break it and you pay the price

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    I dont know what vehicle you were in but i maintain anyone who gets done speeding in a Tdi defender or series vehicle deserves a MERIT BADGE !!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangieman View Post
    Simple dont speed or break the law on the road`s and you will have nothing to worry about money or point wise

    Yes i am aware of not deliberately or by accidentally speeding but the law is the law
    You break it and you pay the price
    If you get caught.

    Did I mention, I was followed by a police car last night. I slowed down to 40km/h as I passed them as you are supposed to do (and to give an oncoming truck time to swing out and pass them) and they turned around and followed me for about 30km. The totally ignored the farmer towing the unregistered tandem with a broken tail light we both passed.

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    Got stuck with a spers notice early this year . Got stuck in a red light intersection , flash. Seems the car is out of rego , paid but no reference, therefore no insurance , though paid . Total cost near 2 k . Can I argue , no , leniency , no . Just pay up.

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    But Trog, aren't computers and the system supposed to be infallible......

    Last time I checked the ABS stats, a very large proportion of the fatalities were caused by unlicensed drivers or in unregistered vehicles (and repeat offenders too). The overwhelming majority of drivers who go a couple of kms over the limit and get booked, are sacrificed to the to road safety Gods. As an old journal article stated "speed is not the pariah", just a useful (profitable scapegoat). Lots of other things to fix first, but they cost money, or are more about education (which costs money).

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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Surely you haven't been sucked in by the "Every K over is a killer" malarkey, Trout. Enforcement is more about revenue raising than safety.
    Anyone familiar with the Warego Highway will know the Blacksoil/Muirlea camera, it's in a hollow between a gentle downhill slope and a reasonably steep climb, on an uninterrupted section of divided road, with a 100 kph limit, through undeveloped country. If you have the CC set for 100 kph, your vehicle will be travelling at 103-104 kph at the photo point, within 300 metres the vehicle will be back to 100 kph.
    If authorities were fair dinkum about safety, there would be a greater visible presence of marked police cars, to deter speeding, rather than unmarked cars issuing fines after the event.
    I agree that 1-2 k's over is "Nit Picking" and a Warning would be a better way of Policing in this situation, However if you are fully aware that you CC will put you at risk by up to 4k's over then wouldn't it be prudent to set it at 95-96k's ?
    Personally I don't like to use the CC It make the drive totally boring because for Me the journey is just as much fun as the destination

    What we are discussing here is 12k's over the limit and I doubt that anyone can argue that being charged for travelling at this much excess speed is a case of "Nit Picking" and just a case of revenue raising.
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