Thread: "Demerit" Points.

Originally Posted by YOLO110

Despite being a retired RAF fast jet/airline pilot, I am unable to judge my speed to within 2-3 kph from my surroundings!

Who cares about demerit points. I'm more interested in what you flew in the RAF.

Cheers,
Jon

Originally Posted by jon3950

Who cares about demerit points. I'm more interested in what you flew in the RAF.

Cheers,
Jon

Aeroplanes ,

Originally Posted by Wraithe

Hi Trout, the horse was removed as a form of transport in the "Roadcode 2000" changes.. Thus it is the same as a pedestrian with restrictions... You have no right to use a horse on a public road and some areas they are even restricted from being on pathways, suburbs, freeways etc... You can get a permit to use them in some places and you need a permit to use a sulky or cart... Most police officers overlook this as few have to deal with horses and rights of way... You are even restricted to ride horses on some crown land and also come under the livestock act when you travel long distances, ie Sth West WA where the quarantine laws apply in regards to things like Liverfluke etc

The easing up of restrictions to push bikes is mostly the police, not the law, if you have lost your license, technically you are not allowed to use a pushbike...

But in saying that, you can be done for DUI on a pushbike, horse and if on foot its drunk in a public place(or drunk and disorderly)...

I stand corrected I didn't know that about horses, Thanks for the "Heads Up"
I know that anyone can be done for DUI regardless of what they are driving/riding, I can remember one instance years ago where someone was Busted driving a camel cart back from a remote waterhole with a bunch of kids on board.

Originally Posted by Wraithe

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The easing up of restrictions to push bikes is mostly the police, not the law, if you have lost your license, technically you are not allowed to use a pushbike...

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Dunno about WA, but I can't find anything about this in Vic .. and it simply makes no sense.
You don't need a license to ride a pushbike in Vic, so having lost license, you (now)don't have something that you don't need to ride a pushy anyhow! Technically speaking, you're just as free to ride this bike as any other unlicensed pushy peddler is.

No idea if that changes if you're license is suspended (in WA) tho .. but still makes no sense.

Originally Posted by AK83

Dunno about WA, but I can't find anything about this in Vic .. and it simply makes no sense.
You don't need a license to ride a pushbike in Vic, so having lost license, you (now)don't have something that you don't need to ride a pushy anyhow! Technically speaking, you're just as free to ride this bike as any other unlicensed pushy peddler is.

No idea if that changes if you're license is suspended tho .. but still makes no sense.

I am pretty sure in WA that it is Not illegal to ride a pushbike if you have had your drivers licence suspended

Originally Posted by trout1105

I am pretty sure in WA that it is Not illegal to ride a pushbike if you have had your drivers licence suspended

now that makes sense!!

WA Mick_Marsh, not Vic... I dont understand your laws over there, like "right turn from left lane"???? THats different, but then I spose its understandable as thats how I got around the streets of Perth with a road train...

AK38, WA laws have changed a lot since 1974, lots of road act changes, licensing, fire arms act, Registrations, the list is extensive... But the worst part is, it has become more and more confusing but also harder to enforce...

We have had a few add ons like the WA inc tax on rego's that haven't been removed but the debt has been paid... The addition of increased rego to pay for roads, yet we pay that on fuel too(so double dipping), and thats just a couple of extra costs...

We are both a nanny state and a police state...

ps yes i know this is aussie wide but i live here in the west...

Originally Posted by trout1105

I am pretty sure in WA that it is Not illegal to ride a pushbike if you have had your drivers licence suspended

nah trout, under the act a bike is still a form of transport, thats why they are allowed to use the road... if you have been booked for DUI, no bike...

Police do over look it, but it can be enforce, and DUI whilst on a bike is the same as car, if you have already had your license suspended and you go over whilst riding a bike, then you will get additional for the suspended license plus DUI again...

Like i said in last post, our laws are all over the place and bike riders think they are exempt but actually they are not, just no rego or license required in first place, until you go DUI, then its a different position...