Thread: "Demerit" Points.

Originally Posted by trog

What would happen then if the person never had a licence ? I did know some years ago that had been caught but never the result.

They get fined and are not allowed to obtain/apply for a licence for a specified time, Much the same as having your licence suspended for the same time.

Originally Posted by Wraithe

Like i said in last post, our laws are all over the place and bike riders think they are exempt but actually they are not, just no rego or license required in first place, until you go DUI, then its a different position...

The same penalties for DUI also apply in WA if you are busted driving a boat in the West as well.
So if you drink and drive, sail, or ride you are a Bloody idiot

Originally Posted by Wraithe

WA Mick_Marsh, not Vic... I dont understand your laws over there, like "right turn from left lane"???? THats different, but then I spose its understandable as thats how I got around the streets of Perth with a road train.......

Hook turns only apply in the CBD .. but unless you're a courier it's impossible to drive into or through the city anyhow, so the hook turns are usually the quicker way around

Hook turns are only relevant on roads where trams travel on.
That is, you can have an intersection with a tram going along one way, but not coming across the other way. (eg. Collins and Queen sts).
Travel along Collins(ie. trams in the middle), you have to do a hook turn into Queen ... but not if you're on Queen(ie. no trams) turning into Collins.
Makes sense (in a way) as the trams don't get held up.

If you've ever tried to drive through the CBD at any time NOT between 2AM and 2:01AM . then you'll know that they don't need 40k/h speed limits as you're lucky to crawl along any faster than about 40m/day!!

Just referencing back to the original post if I may, for comparison 12km/h over the limit here in WA will net you only 2 demerit points and $200 fine

I am feeling sorry for you, but on the other hand, I think your post just proves the system works and I don't think your wife will keep driving 52 in a 40 zone next time?

Something I find amazing is, people will flip birds at you if you do 57 in 60 zone or 87 in 90 zone. Their understanding is that one should driving 69 in a 60 zone and 99 in 90.....

I worked in emergency department for two years and had lots of busy Friday night shifts. I have seen many patients pulled from a wrecked vehicle.

people don't understand a vehicle IS a 2 ton killing machine (4 tons in the case of a patrol). it is amazing how the car industry manage to portrait an automobile as something welcoming, warm and home-like. But at the end of the day, when its out of control, it is a lethal weapon. Not to mention the stupid Bullbars people put on their vehicle. Handy to cut the object you hit into two pieces I know....

Anyway. The law is the law and I do sincerely hope if one struggles to follow traffic rules 100% should be forced to drive a autopilot vehicle in the near future.

It's a win-win

Originally Posted by tuesdayfox

I worked in emergency department for two years and had lots of busy Friday night shifts. I have seen many patients pulled from a wrecked vehicle.

people don't understand a vehicle IS a 2 ton killing machine (4 tons in the case of a patrol). it is amazing how the car industry manage to portrait an automobile as something welcoming, warm and home-like. But at the end of the day, when its out of control, it is a lethal weapon. Not to mention the stupid Bullbars people put on their vehicle. Handy to cut the object you hit into two pieces I know....

Anyway. The law is the law and I do sincerely hope if one struggles to follow traffic rules 100% should be forced to drive a autopilot vehicle in the near future.

It's a win-win

Emergency Department, hey.

I'm sure you refused to use any open blades (scalpels) on principle. Oh, and you walk everywhere, on principle.
The point I'm making here is the automobile is a tool. Just like a blade.
It's how it is used determines whether it is a life saver (think ambulance) or life taker.

Oh, and I should point out autonomous vehicles have already taken lives of their occupants. There are already other threads on that.

Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh

Emergency Department, hey.

I'm sure you refused to use any open blades (scalpels) on principle. Oh, and you walk everywhere, on principle.
The point I'm making here is the automobile is a tool. Just like a blade.
It's how it is used determines whether it is a life saver (think ambulance) or life taker.

Oh, and I should point out autonomous vehicles have already taken lives of their occupants. There are already other threads on that.

I am not saying vehicles are evil .....And autopilot vehicle is perfect

I am just saying driving a vehicle should not be taken lightly. Automobile is a heavy machine and can be lethal.
But few of us think this way, aren't we? Often people believe driving is easy and they can multitask when driving.

If one failed to observe the speed limit, I think he/she is probably tired and should take a rest. They are not fit to drive at that point. But again not many agree