Thread: Will Australians please take a deep breath, and stop being so up themselves?

Originally Posted by bob10

Every one is a critic until a close family member is caught up in addiction. Then watch how fast they change their mind.

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Bob yes it is sad and seen way too much of it, but again it is self inflicted by taking the first dose No one to blame but the pushers, users and an ineffective corrupt govt. There is that much information and education out there but so many still think it wont be them.
So sick of people feeling sorry for violent ice addicts. My niece was beaten up by her drug addled boyfriend. Total tool and continuous loser, that Mummy thinks is an angel. I should have let my brother kill him when he had him by the throat, instead I had to pull my brother off to ensure he did not go to jail. Guess what this expletive did? Did it again, threatened my parents and has since done it to other girls. No place on this earth for vilent addicts. Yes people need help but they also must deserve it and want it.
What does it take for people (do gooders) to see what is occurring? Another violent drug fueled murder? My niece was lucky as she was close and I was there that night. They dont care, this was at my parents house, the night of my grand mothers funeral, so shows just how little respect they have for anyone and anything. Talk to me again about compassion and rehab when you see someone face smashed into a brick wall because they would not go out and get someone drugs.
In my opinion dealers should be executed no ifs and buts. While we are a soft society blaming everyone else, nothing will change, but will only get worse and that is the path we are following as noone is accountable, we are all victims with no offenders.

In years to come the prisons will be full of good people who tried to defend their families

Originally Posted by CraigE

Bob yes it is sad and seen way too much of it, but again it is self inflicted by taking the first dose No one to blame but the pushers, users and an ineffective corrupt govt. There is that much information and education out there but so many still think it wont be them.
So sick of people feeling sorry for violent ice addicts. My niece was beaten up by her drug addled boyfriend. Total tool and continuous loser, that Mummy thinks is an angel. I should have let my brother kill him when he had him by the throat, instead I had to pull my brother off to ensure he did not go to jail. Guess what this expletive did? Did it again, threatened my parents and has since done it to other girls. No place on this earth for vilent addicts. Yes people need help but they also must deserve it and want it.
What does it take for people (do gooders) to see what is occurring? Another violent drug fueled murder? My niece was lucky as she was close and I was there that night. They dont care, this was at my parents house, the night of my grand mothers funeral, so shows just how little respect they have for anyone and anything. Talk to me again about compassion and rehab when you see someone face smashed into a brick wall because they would not go out and get someone drugs.
In my opinion dealers should be executed no ifs and buts. While we are a soft society blaming everyone else, nothing will change, but will only get worse and that is the path we are following as noone is accountable, we are all victims with no offenders.

Was a formal complaint made to Police about those alleged offences? What follow up occurred? We had a problem at our end of the street, with one household of ice addicts. One day we were all informed by a neighbour to ignore any unusual noises early in the morning. Early next morning there was a terrible uproar, sounded like a herd of cattle running thru the place. Ambulances , police , what a mess. Still don't know who belted the addicts. No one heard or saw a thing, didn't see the arseholes again. The local Sgt came and gave the lecture about taking the law into our own hands, etc, etc, nice and quiet around here after that. Not that I endorse such action, Mind. It doesn't stop the problem, just moves it on somewhere else. There comes a time to stand up, and put these people in their place. It has been suggested that ice addicts should be made to live next door to the Magistrates that hand out the soft punishments. I think they should make them live with them.

Originally Posted by bob10

Was a formal complaint made to Police about those alleged offences? What follow up occurred? We had a problem at our end of the street, with one household of ice addicts. One day we were all informed by a neighbour to ignore any unusual noises early in the morning. Early next morning there was a terrible uproar, sounded like a herd of cattle running thru the place. Ambulances , police , what a mess. Still don't know who belted the addicts. No one heard or saw a thing, didn't see the arseholes again. The local Sgt came and gave the lecture about taking the law into our own hands, etc, etc, nice and quiet around here after that. Not that I endorse such action, Mind. It doesn't stop the problem, just moves it on somewhere else. There comes a time to stand up, and put these people in their place. It has been suggested that ice addicts should be made to live next door to the Magistrates that hand out the soft punishments. I think they should make them live with them.

Yeah Bob a complaint was made. The police were great and indicated there was no way my brother would face charges for reacting to him. He was charged eventually but took 2 months to catch him. He eventually got 2 years jail, but was out in 10 months. Wont and has no intention of reforming. The disturbing thing is he has done it again since and we have since found out done it to 3 other girls before my niece. What is worse is his mother thinks he is an angel, knew about previous assaults and did not inform anyone. His father and brothers have had enough and at least acknowledge the danger he is. The problem is my niece will now have psychological issues for ever and is actually now in self admitted care for a bit. Drugs aside if he comes near her again it will be the last thing he ever does.
Cheers
Craig

Originally Posted by gordo 350

In years to come the prisons will be full of good people who tried to defend their families

a friend of mine recently did time because he went to the aid of a girl he knew and had liked for years. her bf , in an ice rage was beating her badly so my friend took to him with a piece of waterpipe. The ice freak got off , my friend got time.

i know there will be a follow up to this but I hope my friend does it on dark night in fully blacked costume leaving no traces.

btw the ice freak has since beaten her again.

vigilantes? right place , right time , definitely.

I have a problem with the word vigilantes. It implies you are doing something wrong. If no one else will do the right thing then it is up to us

vigilante is a member of society who assumes the role of maintaining law and order......and punishing wrongdoers.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

vigilante is a member of society who assumes the role of maintaining law and order......and punishing wrongdoers.

A question:
The tern "law and order". Who's law and order as interpreted by whom?
And the wrongdoers. Who decides who the wrongdoers are? Is evidence taken into account? Who tests this evidence. Does the accused have an avenue of appeal? Is the accused assigned representation? What are the repercussions if the vigilante is later proved wrong after punishment has been given?