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Originally Posted by Ean Austral
sadly it is rampant on both sides
heard a university educated indigenous individual on the abc the other day block everything put forward by anyone ringing in that didn't agree with her, by saying but we were here for 60k years. didn't put forward one single positive point that I heard.
if we ignore the issue it will go away right?
re the lack of a solution, i see the issue is, that all of the solution put forward solve the issue by taking something away from something else. robbing peter to pay paul so to speak.
So here's our chance to vote on a date. January 1 is winning as of now.
Australia Day: If we were to change the date, these are some of our options - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
NZ has an interesting way of celebrating its national day. I particularly liked the bit about throwing dildos at unpopular speakers. [smilebigeye]
New Zealand's Waitangi Day is a very different national celebration to Australia Day - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
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Originally Posted by DiscoMick
There is no option for January 26.
The question says, 'If we were to change the date...'
As per usual, a few crackpot activists spoil it for the many and get the desired attention...on occasion some Prime Ministers have refused to attend, and I can't say I blame them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
This particular debate reminds me of this clip from Monty Pythons "The Life of Brian".
monty python and the life of brian, The peoples party - Bing video
It is amazing how little historical research is done by the media and reporters. The ships did not arrive on Jan 26th as reported, it is the day Phillip proclaimed to settlement of NSW at Port Jackson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh
The ships actually arrived between Jan 18-20 and anchored off Botany Bay. Phillip went ashore, deemed it not satisfactory and then set out and found Port Jackson. The ships moved, could not land on the 25th. So on the 26th Commodore Phillip went ashore with a a landing party and made the said proclamation. Between the 27th-29th Jan the convicts, women and children then came ashore. Feb 7th Commodore Phillip was formally appointed Governor and the legal / court system started.
I have yet to hear and reasonable and lucid argument to change the date.
Hurt feelings?? Really? For ancestors you never met or knew? What about the ones killed by their own warring factions?
Well I might have to develop hurt feelings for my Ancestor St Aelphage/Alphage/Alphege (where my surname came from) that was stoned to death, first martyr of Cantebury and the current church is in Parish of Solihull, England, so maybe I should be upset about that and claim Solihull as my own as well as Land Rover. [bigwhistle] Compensation one new RR Vogue per family member per year??
Jan 26th is not invasion day, no invasion occurred, no massacres occurred (the first being some 6 years later in fact) if you can call them that (technically retribution).Yes abhorrent acts occured, but they also occurred on both sides.
Jan 1st date, surely that would be more offensive as the day the Commonwealth of Australia came into being and signifies some of the laws against indigenous occurred. Also conflicts with New Years Day, so why?
Jan 28th why no relevance and could still be offensive as boats still unloading convicts etc.
May 9th Federal govt move to Canberra same as Jan 1st.
May 27th, so now we have to make it about reconciliation week?
Any date picked will be deemed as offensive for some. If we go on believing this there will be a very distorted view on history in the next generation.