Sadly our history has some very dark parts

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29th January 2018, 08:45 AM
bee utey

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Originally Posted by Eevo

thats how it works.

Whitewashing history is for simpletons. Fortunately a deeper view of history is still available for those that care.
29th January 2018, 09:23 AM
trout1105

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Originally Posted by bee utey

Whitewashing history is for simpletons. Fortunately a deeper view of history is still available for those that care.

Nobody is trying to "Whitewash" history, the sins of the first settlers are well documented.
Lots of people are guilty of embellishing past events and for falsely announcing that Australia was "Invaded" and not "Settled" to promote their own political agenda though [bigwhistle]
29th January 2018, 09:33 AM
Eevo

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Originally Posted by bee utey

Whitewashing history is for simpletons. Fortunately a deeper view of history is still available for those that care.

tell that to every civilization that no longer exists...
29th January 2018, 09:43 AM
incisor

an interesting fact

in modern history, prior to 1928, every generation could expect to be vanquished at least once, "on average".

after 1928 that blew out to one in every three generations as the end of world war one, saw conquest rates collapse as the international legal footprint changed.

sadly china and russia are now attempting to break the shakles of that legal footprnt

interesting times ahead maybe.
29th January 2018, 09:48 AM
AllTerr

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Originally Posted by bee utey

I take it then that the only view of history that is allowed is that of the victors.

Victors of what? Of who? There WAS NO WAR!!! Bottom line: this country was settled, not invaded. There was no malice when the first settlers came. Most tried to make friends.
29th January 2018, 10:08 AM
bee utey

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Originally Posted by AllTerr

Victors of what? Of who? There WAS NO WAR!!! Bottom line: this country was settled, not invaded. There was no malice when the first settlers came. Most tried to make friends.

So say the people of British origin. Yes indeed, "WAR!!!" was not officially declared by British parliament. The fact that "WAR!!!" can be replaced with "police action", 'retribution for sheep stealing" and other spurious reasons for the killing of natives is just semantics. Native people died in much larger numbers due to "settlement" than through natural causes.
29th January 2018, 10:23 AM
trout1105

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Originally Posted by bee utey

Native people died in much larger numbers due to "settlement" than through natural causes.

Seriously? Who told you that?
29th January 2018, 10:33 AM
Eevo

i thought disease killed most.
given the level of medical knowledge/ignorance back then, hard to blame anyone.
29th January 2018, 10:57 AM
V8Ian

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Originally Posted by bee utey

I take it then that the only view of history that is allowed is that of the victors.

No, feel free to debate any version, but debate the issue instead of trading insults with people who hold a different view.
29th January 2018, 11:05 AM
AllTerr

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Originally Posted by bee utey

So say the people of British origin. Yes indeed, "WAR!!!" was not officially declared by British parliament. The fact that "WAR!!!" can be replaced with "police action", 'retribution for sheep stealing" and other spurious reasons for the killing of natives is just semantics. Native people died in much larger numbers due to "settlement" than through natural causes.

All of what you have said has happened in every country in the planet, yet no one else is complaining.

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