Local Guy with mental health issues gets arrested today.

**Roverlord off road spares** · 19th January 2018, 10:05 PM

I have passed him in the street, stood next to him in a supermarket queue, even had him sit near me in the locsl pathology waiting room, it was awkward, I wanted to say good day when he looked a me, but couldn't bring myself to it.

**trog** · 19th January 2018, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by bob10

No hope.

Life achieved then

**bob10** · 19th January 2018, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by trog

Life achieved then

My life took a definite up turn when my expectations reached rock bottom.

**cuppabillytea** · 20th January 2018, 07:50 AM

I had an Aunt who was mentally ill. She resided in the Loony Bin from age 16 until she died at age 62. I loved her and her friends were great fun, if a little scary. Now that institution is an Art School. Not much changes.
MHFs are depressing places, just as prisons are but I think they are appropriate for those for whom treatment is insufficient.
I hate to think that my Aunty and her friends could have been put down.

**rangieman** · 20th January 2018, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by cuppabillytea

I had an Aunt who was mentally ill. She resided in the Loony Bin from age 16 until she died at age 62. I loved her and her friends were great fun, if a little scary. Now that institution is an Art School. Not much changes.
MHFs are depressing places, just as prisons are but I think they are appropriate for those for whom treatment is insufficient.
I hate to think that my Aunty and her friends could have been put down.

Im no tree hugging gay vegan but everyone and everything has a right to live with in reason

I dont have a answer how to deal with the problem but i could only assume life would not be comfortable in a MHF but idont agree on putting them down either.
I feel the crux of the matter is the political financial gains and savings of not having the exspense of these facilities .

**Roverlord off road spares** · 20th January 2018, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by rangieman

Im no tree hugging gay vegan but everyone and everything has a right to live with in reason

I dont have a answer how to deal with the problem but i could only assume life would not be comfortable in a MHF but idont agree on putting them down either.
I feel the crux of the matter is the political financial gains and savings of not having the exspense of these facilities .

I'm glad you feel that way, as you know I have mental health issues, I would hate to think there are people so insensitive out that they think the solution is Nazi Germany put down every one that has issues. I feel sorry for this guy in some way, something in his life had made him that way. I know I wasn't born with my problem, it is a result of something during my life. As I said I heard he used to be a kick boxer, Kick boxers some I have met have some degree of brain damage. Sadly Not every one out there can build a bridge.

**Roverlord off road spares** · 20th January 2018, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by loanrangie

We have a bloke that I see daily walking around barefoot in any weather that obviously has mental health issues, seems harmless and he must live nearby so assume someone is looking out for him.

I see another bloke in Ferntree gully that has long white hair looks like he's been marooned on a desert island and wears sandells, Blue tight 'Warrick Capper' style shorts and a woollen jumper every day of the year. Come cold winter or hot summer I see him regularly and he wears the same clothes every day.. unless he has a supply of the same outfit. seems odd, maybe it's a fashion statement

Tombie · 20th January 2018, 11:02 AM

I’ll clarify my statement:

Plenty of people have issues.. The majority can manage with treatment, counselling, behavioural conditioning, medication etc....

Some, are in such a state they can’t look after themselves and need support... full time care...

And then,
There are the Rabid dogs, the dangerous ones, those that snap and suddenly innocent people are dead...Those that run around threatening the public.. the ones that hurt and maim and threaten others in hospitals and institutions.

Those ones should be humanely put down.

It is humans that can see the whole logic in the animal kingdom but can’t see the parallels in human society.

**rick130** · 20th January 2018, 02:02 PM

The problem is that funding for mental health is woefully inadequate in this country, and it doesn't look like it will get better anytime soon.

rant/
When you have people in politics who's heads are so far up their own arses with their attitude of "I'm ok Jack, bugger you, you deal with your own ****", or worse, "it's not real, it's all in your head" (pun intended) but the reality is they are some of the most in need of counselling/psycho analysis as they usually display a plethora of habits and behaviours I could lift straight out of the DSM.
I'm lumping domestic violence in here too, woefully underfunded and often ignored due to IMO intrinsic misogyny.
Lots of hand wringing when a TV camera is pointed in their direction, but not enough done.
/rant

**Roverlord off road spares** · 20th January 2018, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Homestar

All I'll counter that with is - How did Mackay come to have such a huge drug problem?

You can look at any headline and accuse that state of having issues that others don't but it's only those that bury thier heads in the sand that think this...

Based on your posts I'm assuming you think that Queensland has zero mentally unstable potentially dangerous people walking around in the comminuity? 😆😆😆

Just crime related statistics from the ABS a a couple of years out of date. Drugs seem to be the major contributer of crimes
I couldn't find any more recent data

KEY FINDINGS

The number of offenders proceeded against by police in Australia during 2015–16 increased for the fourth consecutive year to total 422,067 offenders, an increase of 1% (or 5,016 offenders) from 2014–15.
However, after adjusting for population growth, there was little change in the national offender rate with 2,023 offenders per 100,000 persons aged 10 years and over, compared to an offender rate of 2,027 in 2014–15.
Since the beginning of the time series in 2008–09 the number of offenders has increased by 12% (or 46,474 offenders). Over the same period the offender rate increased by less than 1% (from 2,006 to 2,023 offenders per 100,000 persons aged 10 years and over).

OFFENDER NUMBERS INCREASED IN ALMOST ALL STATES AND TERRITORIES

Victoria was the only state or territory in which the number of offenders decreased between 2014–15 and 2015–16, with a decrease of 3,163 offenders (or 4%).

Over the same period the number of offenders increased in:
- - New South Wales (by 3,905 offenders or 3%)
  - South Australia (by 2,254 offenders or 5%)
  - Western Australia (by 1,322 or 3%)
  - Northern Territory (by 279 offenders or 2%)
  - Queensland (by 245 offenders or 0.2%)
  - Australian Capital Territory (by 125 offenders or 5%)
  - Tasmania (by 49 offenders or 0.5%)

New South Wales, Queensland and Victoria accounted for the majority of offenders proceeded against by police in 2015–16:
- - New South Wales 30% (128,397 offenders)
  - Queensland 24% (100,539 offenders)
  - Victoria 18% (77,770 offenders)
- ILLICIT DRUG OFFENCES WAS THE MOST COMMON PRINCIPAL OFFENCE
- In 2015–16 the most common principal offence nationally was Illicit drug offences (20% or 83,160 offenders).
- The number of offenders with a principal offence of Illicit drug offences has increased by 48% since the start of the time series in 2008–09 when there were 56,304 recorded offenders.
- The principal offence of the majority of offenders in this division (67% in 2015–16) was Possess and/or use illicit drugs.
- Persons aged 20–24 years had the highest offender rate by age group for Illicit drug offences with 1,066 offenders per 100,000 persons.

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