Replace a Defender with what?

**Vern** · 4th February 2018, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by Shoogs

As RM I just sign them off as exempt, like many light vehicles for short term work on mines, the risk profile is low in most instances.

Good that you sign them off, but others might not, and there goes his contract. Its all pretty silly though, of all the machines on sites, that can do a lot more damage than an LV without an ancap rating

**JDNSW** · 5th February 2018, 05:23 AM

So far he has been allowed, but the pressure is increasing. Probably looking now that one of his Defenders (300Tdi) is getting pretty knocked about, and costing a lot for maintenance - complaints about things like door lock push buttons falling off. I don't think it has ever been under cover in its life, so the plastic bits are suffering badly from sunshine.

**Tote** · 5th February 2018, 07:43 AM

I spent Saturday at the test track at the 4wd Spectacular on Saturday and I'm even more perplexed as to the answer to the question. I drove the Disco 5 for an hour or so and just like the Disco 4 it is very comfortable and incredibly capable, a different side to the same coin as the Sahara.
Most of the dual cabs were uninspiring in comparison to my 130 that I drove around the track when it was being prepared, and most were not in any significant way better in comfort.
I did do a couple of laps in the Dodge Ram they had there and although it is in no way suitable for my requirements I suspect that I could get used to one very quickly as long as I didn't want to take it to the high country or park it in town. Very nice interior, very spacious, oodles of grunt and enough clearance for the track if you put a better set of side steps on it.
It would be nice to think that LR could do a new Defender that takes the experience of driving a D5 and puts it in a dual cab ute with enough room and a nice interior, I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

*none the wiser*

Regards,
Tote

**V8Ian** · 5th February 2018, 05:37 PM

How about Delicia or Tarago 4x4? I'm ignorant of their weight and tow ratings, or if they have ANCAP ratings.

**JDNSW** · 5th February 2018, 06:53 PM

Do they have low range? necessary for continuous low speed. Also, diesel?

**V8Ian** · 5th February 2018, 07:02 PM

I believe at least the Mitsubishi has, John. Paul, Jonesfam is the guru on these.

**Zeros** · 5th February 2018, 10:25 PM

Ford Everest?

**superquag** · 6th February 2018, 12:09 AM

UAZ ? Rugged, reliable, capable - oops, sorry, no ANCAP rating...

**JDNSW** · 6th February 2018, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by Zeros

Ford Everest?

As far as I can see, no low range, only 750kg load, although towing is fairly good. Another possible issue (that applies to a lot of the other suggestions as well) - can you get LT or other stake resistant tyres in the right size? And if you can, is it legal to run them? Apparently no manual transmission either.

**martnH** · 6th February 2018, 11:33 AM

How about JMC ute (another Chinese ute
The engine is (surprise surprise) a Ford tdci 2.4. Comes with manual transmission.

So by engine,
Cummins engine - Foton ute
Ford tdci engine - JMC ute
GM/Holden Colorado 2.8 VM diesel - TDV ute

All Chinese all diesel with manual transmission. All under $30,000.....

Assuming these Chinese Utes will last three years, I think they are excellent choices.... TDV T60 is ANCAP 5 stars too
Comes with warranty so big saving on maintenance compared to a defender

If you read about Land Rover jaguar's strategy you will know they no longer interested in making working vehicles.

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