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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    yep a https proxy and some scripts to collate the address data collected into readable form.

    will show whats gone where and come from where but seeing as it is https it wont show what it is that is being transmitted so you don't get to find out whether it's good or bad when it's all said and done.

    many decent firewall apps will show you that sort of address data from what i have seen, but they don't generally collate a list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    yep a https proxy and some scripts to collate the address data collected into readable form.

    will show whats gone where and come from where but seeing as it is https it wont show what it is that is being transmitted so you don't get to find out whether it's good or bad when it's all said and done.

    many decent firewall apps will show you that sort of address data from what i have seen, but they don't generally collate a list.
    There are means of setting up keys and proxies to then be able to decrypt SSL and TLS*traffic using the Wireshark network protocol analyzer. In Wireshark, the SSL dissector is fully functional and can support advanced features such as decryption of SSL, if the encryption key is provided. This is useful when troubleshooting products that use SSL or TLS encryption. There are added requirements and methods for even more advanced capabilities, so I am told.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tc_s1 View Post
    There are means of setting up keys and proxies to then be able to decrypt SSL and TLS*traffic using the Wireshark network protocol analyzer. In Wireshark, the SSL dissector is fully functional and can support advanced features such as decryption of SSL, if the encryption key is provided. This is useful when troubleshooting products that use SSL or TLS encryption. There are added requirements and methods for even more advanced capabilities, so I am told.
    I agree that looking at your own traffic when you know your own keys is easy but when you don't it gets much harder

    pretty much anything is possible if you have the hardware / $'s / knowhow

    what is feasible / viable for most is another point altogether...

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    It gets scarier. I was the office the other day with my phone sitting on the desk and the guy next to me started talking about farm sheds he was looking at for his block of land. An hour later at lunch I open my phone, look at Faceache and here are ads popping up for farm sheds.
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    Yep, our phones are listening to us and telling others about what we discuss.

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    I bought a cheap ($35) " activity / fitbit" gadget, mainly for pulse, O2 and BP. but, the software to run it all demanded access to 'Everything', - contacts, camera wiFi and GPS. etc. ! The devil is... even to set the time & date, the phone needs to have the software fully loaded. - The wristband is NOT an independent item.
    Even refusing one of the access-"requests" means NO installation.
    Why does some obscure Oriental Gentleman 'need' to know and see what is happening TO and AROUND me ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post

    Why does some obscure Oriental Gentleman 'need' to know and see what is happening TO and AROUND me ???
    Because he can collect information and on-sell it making more than he did selling you the product.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by superquag View Post
    I bought a cheap ($35) " activity / fitbit" gadget, mainly for pulse, O2 and BP. but, the software to run it all demanded access to 'Everything', - contacts, camera wiFi and GPS. etc. ! The devil is... even to set the time & date, the phone needs to have the software fully loaded. - The wristband is NOT an independent item.
    Even refusing one of the access-"requests" means NO installation.
    Why does some obscure Oriental Gentleman 'need' to know and see what is happening TO and AROUND me ???
    Not that long ago 'secret' US bases became not so secret as soldiers and agents fitness regimes were uploaded automatically, and so you had all those traces outlining 'something' in the middle of nowhere where there was supposed to be nothing.

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    I've been told that the POKEMON craze has a similar (?) 'hidden agenda'... Great way to get up-to-date pics on a desired target, foreign embassy, infrastructure installations etc. Even military barracks in civvy-street.

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