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    ...although the serenity of one of these! would outweigh my latent inner V8 bogan by 100:1 ...

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    Land Rover must be kicking themselves... the next Defender is unlikely to compete with the Bollinger B1 depending on price. I wonder if there has been design patent dispute?

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    And here's the very beginning of the EV conversion market for lovers of small block chevs...

    Chevy’s new electric Camaro is the near future of EV drag racing - The Verge

    “I like that they’re using proven off-the-shelf components and that they’re pushing electric vehicles into motorsports,” automotive journalist Bozi Tatarevic tells The Verge. “The motor that they are using is obviously stout since Daimler chose the same one for the eCanter. The inverters they are using are widely available and match up with their claims of running 800 volts.”

    Perhaps most important, Tatarevic says, is that the housing for the electric motors matches that of GM’s combustion LS motors, which are supremely popular. This “offers an opportunity for other race cars to adapt the same system if they decide to offer it as a crate package,” Tatarevic says, theoretically making it easier for people to explore EV drag racing beyond just bringing their Tesla to the track.

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    If Mazda released an EV version of our 2 with at least a 300km range at a reasonable price I'd seriously consider trading ours on it.
    For one reason, we currently spend about $50 to refill our 2 for a range of 550-600ks. Two recharges of an EV 2 for a similar total range could cost less than $10, based on the Nissan Leaf's recharging costs. So, we could be about $40 better for the same distance in an EV version. Servicing costs should also be lower.

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    When equivalent EVs reach comparable prices to ICE cars, there are two factors that will distort what happens.

    1. The tradein on your old ICE will get disappointingly low

    2. As EVs replace ICE vehicles, one of the intial effects will be lowered petrol demand, and as a result, oil prices can be expected to drop.

    I think the magnitude of these effects are quite unpredictable. I am sure that they can be modelled by economists, but to do so you need to input values for a number of factors that will be pure guesses - so the results will be whatever the modeller want them to be!

    Typical for economic models, and this will be a substitution of technology that has no prior comparable examples to learn from.
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    The other problem may be that imported EV's don't plug into gum trees. ...the big question mark over the Bollinger vehicles is, how do you charge them out bush? ...which means that ICE or Hybrid 4x4's will be around for a long time to come. I'm surprised there is no hybrid Bollinger model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    The other problem may be that imported EV's don't plug into gum trees. ...the big question mark over the Bollinger vehicles is, how do you charge them out bush? ...which means that ICE or Hybrid 4x4's will be around for a long time to come. I'm surprised there is no hybrid Bollinger model.
    Do you distill eucalyptus oil to refill your diesel tank? Or do you drive to the nearest town?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    The other problem may be that imported EV's don't plug into gum trees. ...the big question mark over the Bollinger vehicles is, how do you charge them out bush? ...which means that ICE or Hybrid 4x4's will be around for a long time to come. I'm surprised there is no hybrid Bollinger model.
    I'd be surprised if some sort of range extender is not optioned for undeveloped markets such as ours, if not the aftermarket suppliers will be right onto turbine range extenders etc, (or even MrFusion style devices )

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Do you distill eucalyptus oil to refill your diesel tank? Or do you drive to the nearest town?
    Sometimes it’s a town, or a roadhouse, or a jerrycan. I wonder how much charge a jerrycan sized battery would hold?

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    I see the Tesla recharging network is based on the criteria that recharging stations should not be more than 500 kms apart. Judging from the map of charging locations, that could soon be achieved.
    Don't forget too that a 15amp charging point is not essential. They can be plugged into any power point. It just takes longer to recharge. So, any power point will do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    Sometimes it’s a town, or a roadhouse, or a Jerrycan. I wonder how much charge a jerrycan sized battery would hold?
    A Jerry can size of my LFP batteries is 3.2kwh = Approx 10km in my Landy or 15km in a Nissan Leaf .

    Would have been handy for me when I ran out of charge 5km from home & had to call a Flat top . I do happen to have 5 spare cells that would make up such a pack but would need to also source a suitable Inverter .

    Probably make more sense dare I say to carry a small generator.

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    Further to above, now you've got me thinking.
    4 of the LFP 200 AHA Cells above will be 12.8v nom (13.8 max 11.6 min) Use onboard Solar Panels & MPPT to charge the 'jerry can' and a 240v 3500W inverter as a handy 240v power supply and to plug the J1772 Onboard charge lead into in an emergency , - but will only give about 10km range to your depleted traction pack, . Wait for the "Jerry Can" to charge from onboard Solar panels (might take a day or 2) & add another 10km to your battery pack . slow process but better than walking , And that 10km would become 20km when driving in "Eco mode"

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