JLR Survey 50% of Australian Millennials want Electric over ICE

**Zeros** · 8th November 2018, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by goingbush

A Jerry can size of my LFP batteries is 3.2kwh = Approx 10km in my Landy or 15km in a Nissan Leaf .

Would have been handy for me when I ran out of charge 5km from home & had to call a Flat top . I do happen to have 5 spare cells that would make up such a pack but would need to also source a suitable Inverter .

Probably make more sense dare I say to carry a small generator.

Edit,

Further to above, now you've got me thinking.
4 of the LFP 200 AHA Cells above will be 12.8v nom (13.8 max 11.6 min) Use onboard Solar Panels & MPPT to charge the 'jerry can' and a 240v 3500W inverter as a handy 240v power supply and to plug the J1772 Onboard charge lead into in an emergency , - but will only give about 10km range to your depleted traction pack, . Wait for the "Jerry Can" to charge from onboard Solar panels (might take a day or 2) & add another 10km to your battery pack . slow process but better than walking , And that 10km would become 20km when driving in "Eco mode"

Ha! Thanks GB!

...reckon it would be quicker to walk

...but the electric jerrycan has potential! Just need to get each up to a range of 200km!

**rar110** · 8th November 2018, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by goingbush

I'd be surprised if some sort of range extender is not optioned for undeveloped markets such as ours, if not the aftermarket suppliers will be right onto turbine range extenders etc, (or even MrFusion style devices

)

Some like the BMW EV have the option of a petrol generator to extend range. Intended more for the unexpected I think.

**goingbush** · 8th November 2018, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by rar110

Some like the BMW EV have the option of a petrol generator to extend range. Intended more for the unexpected I think.

Mazda have an EV planned with a small rotary engine coupled to a generator as a Range Extender, Ideal use for a Rotary IMO .

Mazda confirms rotary range extender for upcoming EV

DiscoMick · 9th November 2018, 06:56 AM

Ah, that's an electric 2. Good move.

**austastar** · 9th November 2018, 08:42 AM

Hi,
Somewhere I read that the Poms have an electric garbage truck that can recharge/top-up with a small gas turbine.
The idea is silent running in smaller streets and lanes, then recharge on major/through roads.
Not that garbage trucks are quiet when loading/compacting, but it is a step in the right direction.
Cheers

**Jojo** · 9th November 2018, 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by rar110

Some like the BMW EV have the option of a petrol generator to extend range.

Originally Posted by goingbush

Mazda have an EV planned with a small rotary engine coupled to a generator as a Range Extender

Quite silly, actually. You wouldn't equip an ICE-vehicle with an electric engine and some batteries just in case the fuel tank runs dry, would you?!? Put in an adequately sized pack of decent batteries, enable fast charging and off you go.

**goingbush** · 10th November 2018, 06:29 AM

Originally Posted by Jojo

Quite silly, actually. You wouldn't equip an ICE-vehicle with an electric engine and some batteries just in case the fuel tank runs dry, would you?!? Put in an adequately sized pack of decent batteries, enable fast charging and off you go.

Yes it is very silly . But some people cant get their head around 'Range Anxiety" like any other form of anxiety is just a state of mind. In the transition from ICE to EV I guess there is a market for it.

**rammypluge** · 10th November 2018, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by lyonsy

Roof top solar unless you are charging during the day or pumping it into battery's then using them to charge your car your not really reducing the carbon emission's of the electricity, yes you are putting electricity into the grid then claiming it back later on but the grid is not a battery (yet) its just rob Peter to pay Paul, Same as buying carbon credits from some 3rd world country cause they are allowed this much carbon but only use this much.
Once Australia is not using as much fossil fuel for electricity then they will become less carbon intensive.
so hence why i say your just removing emissions from city and putting where the power plant is in the majority of case's.
and Yes overseas ev's are better due to there electricity supply.

The other part with the roof top is how many systems are actually large enough to offset the cars use and how many people would upgrade there system for it when they charge at night on night rates when its cheap well so long as the cheap rates times are long enough to charge the car back up with a 15 amp power point.

If you get 100% greenpower from your energy retailer your arguments fall down.

**PhilipA** · 10th November 2018, 08:13 AM

I

f you get 100% greenpower from your energy retailer your arguments fall down.

ROTFL
If you actually believe that then I have a great bridge to sell you.

Regards Philip A

DiscoMick · 10th November 2018, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by goingbush

Yes it is very silly . But some people cant get their head around 'Range Anxiety" like any other form of anxiety is just a state of mind. In the transition from ICE to EV I guess there is a market for it.

Hybrids just seem like a poor compromise to me. They aren't very good EVs or ICEs.

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