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    Whilst the land sharks and real estate criminals would be slavering at the idea of getting their greedy paws on cheap or free government land they would never build low cost housing in this land for first home buyers or the homeless. To make the housing affordable the houses would need to be small two or three bedroom designed to be readily extendable as families grow. Also need to have bare minimum of fittings and services and appliances to keep costs down. The rapacious building and development industries are not interested in this. Low cost houses mean low profits. They much prefer to stick the buyer with a monster four or more bedroom, three bathroom, triple garage and swimming pool with all the bells and whistles. One of the reasons young first home buyers complain they can't afford a house is this industry's concentration on high prices and high profits.
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    I'm waiting for someone who is advocating making public land available to explain in detail why or how it will solve the housing problem.

    There is not much point discussing whether it should be done if it hasn't been established that it will actually solve the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    I'm waiting for someone who is advocating making public land available to explain in detail why or how it will solve the housing problem.

    There is not much point discussing whether it should be done if it hasn't been established that it will actually solve the problem.
    Simply put if there was more public housing more people would be able to afford to have a roof over their head.
    The downside is that if there was more public housing there would be less private renters and this would have a detrimental effect on the housing market.
    This is probably why only small parcels of land are allocated at a time so that it doesn't make any waves in house values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trout1105 View Post
    Simply put if there was more public housing more people would be able to afford to have a roof over their head.
    The downside is that if there was more public housing there would be less private renters and this would have a detrimental effect on the housing market.
    This is probably why only small parcels of land are allocated at a time so that it doesn't make any waves in house values.
    That wasn't the point I was making.

    I don't doubt that more affordable housing is a good thing.

    My question is how will opening up public land provide more housing?

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    It won't unless the housing is rented out at affordable rents, which won't happen under a private system, so it has to be government housing.

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    Hedgehog Self Build Housing Co-op

    Having land available doesn't necessarily mean homes will follow, as where are the homeless going to find the money for houses, but the above type self build co-op could work. This was shown on Grand Designs years ago, in Bob's suburb's namesake, in Blighty.

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    Only about three percent of rental housing is affordable for homeless people, according to a recent survey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeros View Post
    I like your conversation starters Bob. Like fishing from your couch. Throw out a line and see what bites. Lots of hungry fish.
    If enough Australians got involved in this type of conversation at a National level, this country may actually move forward. Aulro may be the start of a trend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    If enough Australians got involved in this type of conversation at a National level, this country may actually move forward. Aulro may be the start of a trend.
    Glad to hear it Bob, I hope you’re right. ...what I don’t understand is why the question even needs to be asked?

    We’re clearly short of public housing. Where else is new public housing going to be built but on public land?

    I’m even more dismayed when the conversation turns to race or politics or whether homeless people should be provided for or not. None of these should even be a factor.

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    [QUOTE=Zeros;2859533
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    Where else is new public housing going to be built but on public land?
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    I don't understand why that is the only option.

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