No doubt the 2020 D4 will have a wrist strap adventure key.
Or you can can just leave the key in a Defender, carry the plip. Or leave the doors unlocked like a Defender should. Get a keyless perentie ignition.
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No doubt the 2020 D4 will have a wrist strap adventure key.
Or you can can just leave the key in a Defender, carry the plip. Or leave the doors unlocked like a Defender should. Get a keyless perentie ignition.
What BS. Defender design was way past its use by date. Ergonomics were woeful for a new vehicle today. Nowhere for my right elbow... I own several series vehicles so I get the iconic shape, usability etc, but the Defender model was kept 20 years too long...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeros
Under Ford ownership LR should have launched a new defender around the same time as the d3 .
You could go all the way back to the Challenger project in the 1990s, which was a workhorse model with loosely D1 panels and proper cabin layouts...Quote:
Originally Posted by loanrangie
Don't need to go that far , td5 was a good upgrade but after 5 years they could of had a fully revised vehicle ready.
I bet they wouldn't have had the cash or resources to do substantial upgrades to both models.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanrangie
We know they could have,maybe should have,hindsight is a wonderfull thing.
But they took the other route and decided to terminate the Deefer and build more yuppy vehicles,which seem to sell in droves,so good luck to them.
Funny thing is, I totally agree with you. A new Defender is well overdue. ...you have totally missed my point. What I’m saying is if the next Defender is effectively a D4 and fills the void that the D5 has created - it’s not a Defender.Quote:
Originally Posted by cjc_td5
Yes I agree also. The Defender model should be retired and the new model start afresh...Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeros
LOL Now you’re definately trying to put words in my mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by cjc_td5
The Defender name should be retired, if the next one is effectively a D4.
If however it is an all new HD work vehicle, it might warrant the name Defender being retained.
It is highly doubtful that LR will be producing a HD Work truck as they have been targeting the luxury market for some time now.Quote:
If however it is an all new HD work vehicle, it might warrant the name Defender being retained.
IF they were to produce a No frills live axle truck they would struggle to sell them A, because they are a Landrover and most people perceive that brand to be unreliable and B, The Japs have pretty much got that side of the market sown up.
Personally I would Love to see a New design Defender that is driver friendly with live axles and a nice big Diesel V8 under the hood But I think that is just a pipe dream.
I am absolutely certain that LR could produce a truck that is better than the 79 series Toyotas and other Jap offerings But I doubt that they will bother to do it.
The luxury end of the market may be lucrative But most of the money is in the workhorse area with reasonably priced trucks for the farming, mining and recreational customers.