Wizard
No doubt the 2020 D4 will have a wrist strap adventure key.
Or you can can just leave the key in a Defender, carry the plip. Or leave the doors unlocked like a Defender should. Get a keyless perentie ignition.
ChatterBox
What BS. Defender design was way past its use by date. Ergonomics were woeful for a new vehicle today. Nowhere for my right elbow... I own several series vehicles so I get the iconic shape, usability etc, but the Defender model was kept 20 years too long...Originally Posted by Zeros
Yes we all know D4 owners wished they were really driving Defenders. Also a virtual D4 with a Defender badge will make many happy who’s better halves wouldn’t let them buy a Defender!
LordRover
SubscriberUnder Ford ownership LR should have launched a new defender around the same time as the d3 .
MY08 TDV6 SE D3- permagrin ooh yeah
2004 Jayco Freedom tin tent
1998 Triumph Daytona T595
1974 VW Kombi bus
1958 Holden FC special sedan
ChatterBox
You could go all the way back to the Challenger project in the 1990s, which was a workhorse model with loosely D1 panels and proper cabin layouts...
LordRover
SubscriberDon't need to go that far , td5 was a good upgrade but after 5 years they could of had a fully revised vehicle ready.
MY08 TDV6 SE D3- permagrin ooh yeah
2004 Jayco Freedom tin tent
1998 Triumph Daytona T595
1974 VW Kombi bus
1958 Holden FC special sedan
Swaggie
I bet they wouldn't have had the cash or resources to do substantial upgrades to both models.
We know they could have,maybe should have,hindsight is a wonderfull thing.
But they took the other route and decided to terminate the Deefer and build more yuppy vehicles,which seem to sell in droves,so good luck to them.
Wizard
Funny thing is, I totally agree with you. A new Defender is well overdue. ...you have totally missed my point. What I’m saying is if the next Defender is effectively a D4 and fills the void that the D5 has created - it’s not a Defender.
ChatterBox
Yes I agree also. The Defender model should be retired and the new model start afresh...
Wizard
LOL Now you’re definately trying to put words in my mouth.
The Defender name should be retired, if the next one is effectively a D4.
If however it is an all new HD work vehicle, it might warrant the name Defender being retained.
OldBushie
SupporterIt is highly doubtful that LR will be producing a HD Work truck as they have been targeting the luxury market for some time now.If however it is an all new HD work vehicle, it might warrant the name Defender being retained.
IF they were to produce a No frills live axle truck they would struggle to sell them A, because they are a Landrover and most people perceive that brand to be unreliable and B, The Japs have pretty much got that side of the market sown up.
Personally I would Love to see a New design Defender that is driver friendly with live axles and a nice big Diesel V8 under the hood But I think that is just a pipe dream.
I am absolutely certain that LR could produce a truck that is better than the 79 series Toyotas and other Jap offerings But I doubt that they will bother to do it.
The luxury end of the market may be lucrative But most of the money is in the workhorse area with reasonably priced trucks for the farming, mining and recreational customers.
You only get one shot at life, Aim well
2004 D2 "S" V8 auto, with a few Mods gone
2007 79 Series Landcruiser V8 Ute, With a few Mods.
4.6m Quintrex boat
20' Jayco Expanda caravan gone
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