Goodnight Diesel. ...Land Rover get your EV skates on!

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Originally Posted by goingbush

What ! You mean to say there are people who don't believe that climate change is man made ! The hole in the Ozone layer certainly is , as is the great pacific garbage patch, I'd say we are making a significant impact. The next Ice age is well overdue, I have not read into the science but I imagine Humans are prolonging it. That said the fact that I removed my EGR & DPF from my Iveco is not going to make any difference to air quality in comparison to bushfire & Volcano emissions.

If I could only have one Vehicle to replace my ICE's the Rivian has more an enough range, I have driven further in a day but certainly at the risk of my and other road user safety. But I'll still take the Bollinger even at 2/3 the range of the Rivian.

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Climate change is not man made! [bigwhistle]
The hole in the ozone layer has always been there, and always will be (it moves around a bit, that's all). [bigwhistle]
The next Ice Age is due whenever it arrives - we're still (climatically) coming out of the last one. [bigwhistle]
How many ICE vehicles does it take to make up the equivalent of one volcano, or the output of the recent Qld bushfires? [bighmmm]

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Originally Posted by donh54

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How many ICE vehicles does it take to make up the equivalent of one volcano, or the output of the recent Qld bushfires? [bighmmm]

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The answer might surprise you.

Human activities emit 60 or more times the amount of carbon dioxide released by volcanoes each year. Large, violent eruptions may match the rate of human emissions for the few hours that they last, but they are too rare and fleeting to rival humanity’s annual emissions. In fact, several individual U.S. states emit more carbon dioxide in a year than all the volcanoes on the planet combined do.

Which emits more carbon dioxide: volcanoes or human activities? | NOAA Climate.gov


Volcanoes and bushfires contribute a lot less than most people think they do.

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Originally Posted by LRJim

What payload and for what distance have you carried? And what sort of impact does it take on your charge?
You reckon you have no trouble doing tip trips with a trailer? What sort of weight can you tow without draining your batteries?
Just curious, I'm sure the motors have the torque to do what you need but what about the batteries?
Could you travel 150ks with 2+t and a full payload?
Cheers Jim

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no , mine is a DIY EV , its does not have half the range of anything you can buy. Towing has less effect than a strong headwind, Deiesls are better at towing than Petrol, Electric that much better again than Diesel. If they have the torque to go from zero to 60 mph in 3 seconds , towing wont affect the batteries . Also think of the extra regeneration your going to get with the trailer downhill.

Hyundai is about to release an EV Kona with a range of up to 480 ks, so that could certainly tow a box trailer to the tip.
Surveys show the average Aussie travels less than 50ks a day, so that's plenty for normal use.
We drove from Coffs Harbour to Sydney today, which is 570ks of easy driving on the upgraded motorway, so a Kona could do that with a lunch break at a service centre for an 80% recharge in 50 minutes.
Electric 4WDs and trucks are on the way.

Interesting read had a quick skim, towing capacity and range closer to the bottom.
Cheers Jim
https://www.carsales.com.au/editoria...w-test-106452/

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Originally Posted by OneOff

All this is very good and I look forward to the incoming technology.

I know the focus of this thread is the ICE and it's demise, but I've always wondered regarding the demise of fossil fuels - "How do we pack 500 people plus luggage into a cigar tube and fly them to Europe or elsewhere in the future?, what replaces AvGas?"

Peter.

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With sufficiently abundant renewable energy resources, hydrogen can be generated in bulk for storage and transformation into synthetic fuels such as methanol.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

My little LandRover tows a fully loaded trailer to the tip a damn site easier than when it had the petrol motor, in fact I don't even notice any difference up to 60km then the Aerodynamics of the trailer come into play , so with a cleanly designed trailer I don't think it will be much of a problem at all. Infact with a Trailer designed for EV touring with its own Batteries & Motor it could be a boon.

When your not Using the Trailer its battery becomes your houses "Powerwall"

Dethleffs puts a new spin on towing with an electric camping trailer that nearly drives itself

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Just playing devils advocate but I had forgotten about the trailer having driven wheels from it’s own power source.

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Originally Posted by Geedublya

I agree with this but... How will EVs go towing trailers of 2T and greater for long distances.

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Weight is less important than wind resistance. Much of the energy used to get your 2T up to speed gets returned to the battery on regen.

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Originally Posted by goingbush

Bollocks, All currently available EV's have more than enough range to suit more than 70% of Australians.

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Rubbish,think of company/work vehicles to start with,loaded,pulling trailers,etc.

And there are many more examples.

I don't know who mentioned range,it isn't the only issue.

It won’t be long (a few years at most) before all the range and charging issues are resolved. Battery life will improve. Rapid charging points will be absolutely everywhere especially if the owners of them are paid a fee. There will be long range vehicles with double batteries, campers with auxiliary batteries, advances in solar skins and paint... then prices will come down.
Although 160k in ten years with low recharge costs could become the norm at the current rate of vehicle price inflation.