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That comment reminds me of the owners handbook of the Simca my father bought in 1959 - It had a prominent warning about the acceleration and performance. Somewhat heavier than the contemporary Holden, but with far better brakes, it had all of 80HP from a flat head V8!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumbles
I wonder if P Platers can legally drive them ? No Turbo , No V8 !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Grumbles
Well, in Victoria it looks like they're all OK:Quote:
Originally Posted by goingbush
VicRoads Vehicles
In Vic the test for cars built after 2010 is kw/tonne or is modified rather than whether the car has a turbo or a certain number of cylinders.
Edit: but I was surprised to discover that the restrictions for pre-2010 vehicles are still turbo/V8/modified.
EV mainstream in Australia in 5 years?
No, not a chance..... Australia - ACT ... Australian Coal Territory.
The threshold is 130Kw/tonne.Quote:
Originally Posted by goingbush
Fall Leaf sales fall: Nissan Leaf sales collapse in Ontario after incentive axed
charles the moderator / 21 hours ago January 14, 2019
From Automotive News Canada
Stephanie Wallcraft
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Since the Ford government in Ontario in July ended rebates of up to $14,000 and the final recipients were registered Sept. 10, sales of the Nissan Leaf have all but collapsed. Photo: Nissan
There is little question that rebates are essential to selling EVs, but no one really knew just how much until now.
Sales of electrified vehicles have plummeted in Ontario since the Doug Ford government removed purchase incentives, and Quebec dealers are reaping the benefits as inventory is reallocated, slashing their wait times for delivery.
Since the Ford government in July ended rebates of up to $14,000 and the final recipients were registered Sept. 10, sales of the Nissan Leaf have all but collapsed. In August, 695 units were sold. In November, just 10, according to figures supplied by Nissan Canada. In Quebec in November alone, 283 units were sold.
General Motors of Canada declined to provide data, but spokeswoman Ester Bucci said the brand has “seen a decline of EV sales” since the rebate’s cancellation, noting that sales in Quebec and British Columbia, where incentives remain in place, are holding strong with Chevrolet Bolt sales posting an overall nationwide increase of 30 per cent year over year. The automaker didn’t provide a brand or model breakdown for December sales.
Chris Budd, owner of Budds’ Group of Companies, which operates nine dealerships in Oakville and Hamilton, Ont., told Automotive News Canada he has seen a decline in interest in EVs at his storefronts.
“We do find [EVs have] pulled back in consideration and sales,” he said. “Our GM facility sold and delivered 91 electric cars last year when the credit was in place. We expect less than 20 with no credit in place.
“It was a growing business and we would have forecast an increase had the credit stayed in place. Supply was always a problem as availability was very lean from GM.”
BUYERS WAIT AND SEE?
Budd said he wasn’t sure whether the decline was due to an untenable price for EVs without the subsidy, or whether consumers were waiting to see whether Ottawa would offer an alternative rebate program.
“There is no doubt that the consumer for electric was somewhat different … more conscious of the environment, new technology, being ground breakers, etc., so we believe some of the backdraft that is present now after the cancellation of credits will pass,” he said. “I believe the credit was too high in Ontario, and if there were a federal program of a more tenable cost/credit was available, we would have a logical uptick.”
Meanwhile, dealers in Quebec are celebrating as automakers redistribute inventory to their stores, dramatically reducing wait times.
“We are receiving an incremental amount of hybrid vehicles in Quebec,” said Denis Leclerc, president of the Albi group of dealerships. “As an example, in our Hyundai dealerships, ordering a hybrid vehicle used to take three to four months. Now, we talk about three to four weeks.
“Another example is Chevrolet. Last year, it took six months to receive a Bolt, and now it takes eight to 10 weeks. We also have Volt in our inventory, and last year this wasn’t the case.”
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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5
Where are the ICE vehicles going to come from, No one will be making them in 5 years .
They will come from companys like CAT, Kubota etc well thats my guess. There will always be a market for diesel work horse's, espeically in AU. I reckon the truck manufacturers would even get on board, MACK ute anyone?
ICE will be around for as long as the fuel will be or until ICE is completely banned.
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Originally Posted by LRJim
Maybe, but then theres this from Mack,
Electric propulsion confirmed for Mack Trucks | Heavy Vehicles
and Cummins
Electric Power | Cummins Inc.
Cummins Beats Tesla To The Punch, Unveiling Heavy Duty Electric Truck
Charged EVs | Cummins
I had that in the back of my mind, wondering when they would be getting the ball rolling. Seems it already has, next is the machinery mobs. Full EV earthmoving moving machinery, tractors and harvesters would be interesting. Most would have enough roofspace for a few solar panels and an inverter tucked away, when they can charge themselves is the next step.Quote:
Originally Posted by goingbush
Cheers Jim