Goodnight Diesel. ...Land Rover get your EV skates on!

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Your K's are also reasonably low,many households would do a lot more,particularly work vehicles,that would still need charging at home.

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That would be balanced to some extent by the fact that a lot of EVs are more aerodynamic than a LR and would not need as much energy to cover the same distance.
Direct comparisons are difficult because there are so many variables.

Why would ICE continue? It’s dirty, noisy less powerful and probably less reliable.
It will be a sad day when the purr of a good Diesel engine is replaced with the silence of EVs for good. But not all that sad. Silence is golden in this world.

Worth watching . wonder if we will be getting an Electric Statesman

https://youtu.be/yKM6QJRwy3g

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Originally Posted by Zeros

Why would ICE continue? It’s dirty, noisy less powerful and probably less reliable.
It will be a sad day when the purr of a good Diesel engine is replaced with the silence of EVs for good. But not all that sad. Silence is golden in this world.

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Not so sad. When I drive down the main street in silence (canvas roof) I can hear quiet petrol engines behind me and I can hear a diesel about 3 cars behind , no idea the world was so noisy . I used to be a petrol head but Diesels and loud V8's have quickly becoming an offensive sound to me.

Come on guys, you can’t beat the sound of a lovely V8... I will buy an EV when I can do a trip of 1,000km between charges, and I can charge the vehicle in 10 minutes. Until then an EV ain’t for the little black duck... [emoji1303][emoji6]

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Originally Posted by scarry

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Hopefully ICE R&D will be ongoing and doesn't drop off completely, due to the huge investment auto companies are now doing on EV's.

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Probably not for passenger car use.

Any existing Internal combustion engine could be modified to run on Hydrogen for zero emissions, but no point Hydrogen Fuel Cell is so much more efficient and reliable . And battery electric is simple and much more efficient than ICE could ever hope to be. There are upcoming worldwide bans on Diesel so I cant see any R&D investment there.

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Originally Posted by grey_ghost

Come on guys, you can’t beat the sound of a lovely V8... I will buy an EV when I can do a trip of 1,000km between charges, and I can charge the vehicle in 10 minutes. Until then an EV ain’t for the little black duck... [emoji1303][emoji6]

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So you will be buying one in about 5 years then :)

I added this sound chip to my E-Landy about 6 months ago when they were talking about legislating a noise to warn pedestrians but I haven't actually used it except as a joke.

https://youtu.be/eVh6W_PqkJo

Love it! (The sound track and the Lightweight)

And yes - in the future I will very likely buy an EV.

In my eyes - it’s only a matter of time. How long? I have no idea.

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Not so sad. When I drive down the main street in silence (canvas roof) I can hear quiet petrol engines behind me and I can hear a diesel about 3 cars behind , no idea the world was so noisy . I used to be a petrol head but Diesels and loud V8's have quickly becoming an offensive sound to me.

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Agree GB. So what do you think would be the best conversion for a Puma Defender? ...anyone want to buy a low km 2.2 puma engine? :)

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

Actually, someone actually posted an answer to your question earlier in this thread, but here it is again:




" #6 – The electricity grid cannot handle the load of all electric cars!
During normal charging at nighttime, an electric car does not use a lot of electricity.
http://teslaclubsweden.se/wp-content.../tesla_2kW.jpg
Origin of the myth: People have fuzzy ideas about how much current an electric car draws. Many thinks that the need for installing a special home charger is because electric cars draw too much current while being charged. That might be true in the US with their 110V outlets, but not here in Europe with our 230V ones.
Why the myth is incorrect: While charging electric cars draw about the same current as comparable household appliances.
If you have driven 100 kilometers during a day, your electric car will have consumed about 20kWh of electricity. It is these 20 kWh you need to recharge back into its batteries at night. If you charge your car from 21:00 to 07:00 the next morning you have 10 hours to recharge 20kWh – that equals to 2kW of effect. That is the same effect and current an electric radiator uses.
Also, an average house uses 2500 kWh less energy this year than it did in the ’90s. All those energy efficient kitchenware you have bought since then saves as much electricity combined as an electric car uses. If you buy an electric car your household will consume as much electricity again as it did in the 90’s. The power grid managed it then, and it will manage it now as well. "

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Gee! They must have really, really smart charging controllers, then! You know, the ones with AI to figure out how long you're going to be home for, so they can limit the charging rate to spread the load over the appropriate time.
Pity if it hasn't spoken to your doctors' computer to realise that there is a really good chance of needing the car for a midnight dash to the Maternity Hospital!
[bighmmm] I wonder what the future percentage of ambulance callouts due to flat batteries will be? [bigwhistle]

As far as I understand it, the controller will deliver the maximum amount of charge it can handle, until the batteries reach around 90-95% charge, and then the load tapers off. So you would be looking at a whole lot of electric radiators! Then, after you've plugged that in, you walk into the house, turn on the A/C, lights, the TV and put the kettle on. Not a simple thing for the infrastructure providers to allow for.

I agree that EV's are probably the future, but I also feel that the reports of the eminent demise of the ICE are somewhat premature. [thumbsupbig]

Just as an aside, until I got our house re-wired, the connection from the mains went through a Bakelite connector, dating back to the time when a household wiring system had to handle half a dozen light bulbs, a wireless, and (post 1950) a refrigerator. I was told by the SEQEB foreman who did the changeover (about 20 years ago) that overloading them was the major cause of fires in old Queenslander homes. He said their maximum rating when new, was often as low as 10 amps! At that time, he estimated that around 70% of the older homes in Warwick (population ~10,000) still had the old connectors fitted.