Not necessarily unrepresentative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Lots of the ABC audience are country people and relatively conservative.
Other surveys show 70-80% wanting action on climate change.
Denialism is definitely a minority view now.
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Not necessarily unrepresentative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Lots of the ABC audience are country people and relatively conservative.
Other surveys show 70-80% wanting action on climate change.
Denialism is definitely a minority view now.
Why not answer the proponents with the Oxford University answer to students demanding a carbon neautral University.
OK cannot do that straight away but we can turn off the gas heating in the accommodation in a temperature of -1C.
The water and drainage pipes would then freeze.
Perhaps people should be reminded what their responses mean and what they could do to facilitate it.
How about the responders turning off their air conditioning in summer for example.
The proponents should be prepared to undertake some privations, such as no mobile phones , no sneakers , no non natural clothing Yada yada yada.
Regards PhilipA
in the article it is stated that there was a change of '5 percentage points'.
Is this the same as 5 per centum? If so, why use the term? If not, what does it mean?
From Wikipedia:Quote:
Originally Posted by Saitch
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A percentage point or percent point is the unit for the arithmetic difference of two percentages. For example, moving up from 40% to 44% is a 4 percentage point increase, but is a 10 percent increase in what is being measured. ... Percentage-point differences are one way to express a risk or probability.
January 2020 was the hottest month on record globally.
CO2 is now at its highest concentration in 800,000 years.
January 2020 was the hottest month on record globally | SBS News
No it wasn't.
I have moved to the denialist camp - saying it wasn't is all the evidence that is needed to support my point [thumbsupbig]
You mean like that bloke on Q and A who said his opinions were not based on evidence?
I wondered what his opinions were based on - rubbing two sticks together, sniffing the air, tossing a coin or examining the entrails of ducks?
I hope that temperature trend continues for a while as I'm off to Russia and Scandinavian areas in a couple of months.
All I wish this topic had was consistency of data.
It is very, very easy to compare consistent data sets.
We don’t have these anymore.
More monitoring stations for example is a good thing for data, however using it alongside earlier records with smaller data sets skews results if not filtered.
Even something as simple as moving a monitoring station (AWS) from one location to another nearby can significantly altered that regions data capture.
There needs to be consistency, then the data speaks conclusively and absolutely for itself.
What will always cause the information to be misinterpreted is this sort of information (Weather rather than climate):
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...81f8e69388.jpg
Last month was similar with lower average “Highs” and Lower average “Lows” recorded.
Regardless, humans being what they are will all **** and moan about it all and nothing will change. I certainly don’t lose any sleep over this topic.
What should be done is a survey that doesn’t isolate one issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
One that encompasses the holistic challenges.
Do you believe action needs to be made on climate change?
What are you willing to change/give up etc to achieve change?
Would you accept a higher cost of living to bring about this change?
What increase would you consider acceptable?
Would you give up travel/tourism to assist?
Do you purchase single use goods?
Would you buy significantly more expensive products if they could be fully recycled / serviced / repaired?
Prime example on any vehicle forum (inc this one).
People buying a new vehicle because the current one was “getting on a bit” or “needed a bit of cash spent” or better still “just wanted a new one”.
Car manufacturers couldn’t continue without human consumerism. Parts manufacturers could operate successfully for decades keeping current and easier models stocked with parts and service items.
Business models and Capitalism and human nature are the biggest problems.
Perhaps the Rivet counters are doing more for the environment than later vehicle owners [emoji23][emoji56]