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  1. 5th December 2020, 08:56 AM #1841
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    On a drive yesterday, through the Maleny, Witta, Obi Obi, Mapleton, Nambour areas, I noticed three, very recently constructed, service stations.
    This got me wondering whether the fuel companies know something that us cattle are not privvy to or, that they're making hay, while the sun shines?
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    Did they have any EV charging stations , by any chance ?
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Did they have any EV charging stations , by any chance ?
    That did cross my mind, Bob. As far as I could see, 'No'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    That did cross my mind, Bob. As far as I could see, 'No'.
    That asks many questions. Get the name of the oil company building them ?
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

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    Norway leads the way for EV's.
    At the core of the Norwegian approach is the mantra that EVs should be cost competitive at point of purchase. This has been achieved through reduced vehicle registration tax, reduced company car tax and zero VAT, and enhanced through exemptions from road tolls, access to bus lanes and free access to ferries”, wrote Audrey Quicke and Richie Merzian for The Driven. Tax is the lever pulled by the Norwegian government to accelerate the transition to clean vehicles




    2020 was the starter pistol on EVs - now the world looks to Norway for inspiration (thedriven.io)
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    That asks many questions. Get the name of the oil company building them ?
    Discomick may be able to shed more light on this perhaps?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    Australia is a minnow in "Climate Change", population wise. What we do here will have no effect if these facts are even 50% true. Perhaps even 25%.

    "We'll all be doomed" said Hanrahan.
    Forget Paris: 1600 New Coal Power Plants Built Around The World | Watts Up With That?
    Most of those Chinese ones either haven't been built or won't be commissioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    On a drive yesterday, through the Maleny, Witta, Obi Obi, Mapleton, Nambour areas, I noticed three, very recently constructed, service stations.
    This got me wondering whether the fuel companies know something that us cattle are not privvy to or, that they're making hay, while the sun shines?
    More likely operators either expanding or deciding to tap into existing market share - in other words, pinching turnover from other businesses that are less well located or haven't upgraded their equipment.

    Take it for granted that banks won't finance this stuff unless the numbers add up. And it's pretty unlikely that it's being done without a loan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    That asks many questions. Get the name of the oil company building them ?
    No it doesn’t. Even if 2030 is the close off date - the stations could make a mint during the next 9 years. Then just convert.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    No it doesn’t. Even if 2030 is the close off date - the stations could make a mint during the next 9 years. Then just convert.
    Yes. The major capital in a service station is usually the real estate, and that will still be there. The financial case for the build will not look more than ten years into the future. Not as if it is something like a road or a railway.

    Although along those lines NSW is spending a lot of money building a new service centre in Dubbo for the next generation of fossil fuelled trains - which I don't think are even being delivered until 2022.
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