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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    I am sorry but I would rather believe climate scientists with recognised experience and qualifications in the area rather than redneck denialists who post on forums with no experience and qualifications other than wishing it was not so.

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    OK, here I am .. this so called 'red neck' denialist.
    If this makes you feel better in some way, then we can move on from the childish name calling and biases inherent in these circular discussions.
    That's out the way now, so we can get back to sensible discussions .. such as this supposed 'climate scientist' from Melb Uni that's obviously gone out to do research to prove her belief, as opposed to finding facts to support a theory one way or another.
    She has an animated drought pictogram which you can view for yourself. Links already posted for you to do this.
    If you do this for yourself, and read this supposed scientists research, then why do her claims that the millenium drought which has supposedly affected all of Aus, and yet the earlier droughts she claims affected local areas only .. when the animated video clearly shows the opposite is basically true!

    As the redneck, I make no claims of any facts or data that I've researched myself .. I only point out the science that these climate science folks are supposedly doing, and seeing claims not correlating to the data shown.
    Only claims I've made are that, historically speaking, a warming globe has never impeded human progress. it throws up challenges, for sure. But from those challenges they rose to overcome it .. and onward again.

    You don't need the red neck denialist that posts of forums(ie. me!) to hold your hand to show you that the research that makes no sense follow the link, read her research and watch the video pausing to view some sections year by year.
    The anomalies in her assessment versus the data shown is quite obvious.

    Or do you selectively read and disseminate this 'science' as you see fit .. and ignore the errors in the data?
    If this is the new course for science ... then there's no hope for a society that's supposedly on the brink. And so it'll deserve to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    No, I disagree. The new normal is based on actual climate science.
    The religion is denialists refusing to accept the science because it conflicts with their ideological beliefs. ....
    I've posted more links to this science data that you claim is 'actual science', and all you do is make more claims .. zero evidence.
    Where is this actual science.
    Where is this science that shows worse droughts floods bushfires and weather?

    Science = claims that correlate to data captured. See above re the latest Melb Uni research that shows huge anomalies with respect to those two points.
    This is science from your science gods that can seem to do no wrong .. but makes no sense with her analysis vs her data.

    Rainfall data from your science gurus clearly shows rainfall increasing on the whole, while some areas have reduced. Strangely tho the drier parts of Aus(SA, MD are on the receiving end of this higher rainfall
    Historical bushfire data clearly shows fires did far more damage back in the day than they do now(basically since the 1970s)
    Drought data categorically shows that they were far worse back in the day than they have been in more modern times(post 1980s).
    All this data is sourced from your science gods .. not mine!

    For me personally it's nothing to do with who's pushing what out at what rate and what we're going to do about it.
    It's only ever been, why is this specific field of science so oblivious to their errors. Only answer can be emotional bias.
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    Here we go Discomike, seeing you couldn't even keep your keyboard mouth shut on the previously pleasant "Where are you logging in from" thread, I'll post this pic here as, if previous theories of gloom and doom where correct , my camp should be under water!
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    Obviously I'd have no idea but to me it looks like a perfectly normal camp behind the Casaurinas & dunes.



    Now you'll tell me it is Heard Island, right?

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    You heard wrong!

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    Speak up SH, I can't hear you.

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    Well you can't blame the generator, as i don't have one. I use solar, religiously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    Here we go Discomike, seeing you couldn't even keep your keyboard mouth shut on the previously pleasant "Where are you logging in from" thread, I'll post this pic here as, if previous theories of gloom and doom where correct , my camp should be under water!
    If that's where I think it is, the water level used to be about 50 metres lower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    I wonder if anyone has thought to phone the Chinese Embassy & ask them to put the mockers on all the **** they are pushing into the atmosphere just for a start?

    Probably not I would think, but just a thought as you do.
    China leads the world in investment in renewable energy.

    China remains the world's worst polluter but did you know it's also a leader in renewable energy? - China power - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK83 View Post
    OK, here I am .. this so called 'red neck' denialist.
    If this makes you feel better in some way, then we can move on from the childish name calling and biases inherent in these circular discussions.
    That's out the way now, so we can get back to sensible discussions .. such as this supposed 'climate scientist' from Melb Uni that's obviously gone out to do research to prove her belief, as opposed to finding facts to support a theory one way or another.
    She has an animated drought pictogram which you can view for yourself. Links already posted for you to do this.
    If you do this for yourself, and read this supposed scientists research, then why do her claims that the millenium drought which has supposedly affected all of Aus, and yet the earlier droughts she claims affected local areas only .. when the animated video clearly shows the opposite is basically true!

    As the redneck, I make no claims of any facts or data that I've researched myself .. I only point out the science that these climate science folks are supposedly doing, and seeing claims not correlating to the data shown.
    Only claims I've made are that, historically speaking, a warming globe has never impeded human progress. it throws up challenges, for sure. But from those challenges they rose to overcome it .. and onward again.

    You don't need the red neck denialist that posts of forums(ie. me!) to hold your hand to show you that the research that makes no sense follow the link, read her research and watch the video pausing to view some sections year by year.
    The anomalies in her assessment versus the data shown is quite obvious.

    Or do you selectively read and disseminate this 'science' as you see fit .. and ignore the errors in the data?
    If this is the new course for science ... then there's no hope for a society that's supposedly on the brink. And so it'll deserve to be.



    I've posted more links to this science data that you claim is 'actual science', and all you do is make more claims .. zero evidence.
    Where is this actual science.
    Where is this science that shows worse droughts floods bushfires and weather?

    Science = claims that correlate to data captured. See above re the latest Melb Uni research that shows huge anomalies with respect to those two points.
    This is science from your science gods that can seem to do no wrong .. but makes no sense with her analysis vs her data.

    Rainfall data from your science gurus clearly shows rainfall increasing on the whole, while some areas have reduced. Strangely tho the drier parts of Aus(SA, MD are on the receiving end of this higher rainfall
    Historical bushfire data clearly shows fires did far more damage back in the day than they do now(basically since the 1970s)
    Drought data categorically shows that they were far worse back in the day than they have been in more modern times(post 1980s).
    All this data is sourced from your science gods .. not mine!

    For me personally it's nothing to do with who's pushing what out at what rate and what we're going to do about it.
    It's only ever been, why is this specific field of science so oblivious to their errors. Only answer can be emotional bias.
    The facts about climate change are in and we already know the solutions, we just have to implement them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    The facts about climate change are in and we already know the solutions, we just have to implement them.
    Spoken like a true believer ... but a non scientist.

    No evidence ... didn't happen, just empty words.
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