Thread: Harassment of truckies by Little Hitlers

Originally Posted by weeds

So how far are we allowed to be oversize before they do something??

Suppose we could just ditch all rules and regulations......

That's something to think about, in truth.
What if a load is 200 grams over weight? Let it go? What about 2 kg over?
What if towing a trailer/camper trailer/caravan and the tow ball weight is 1 kg over? That's illegal, isn't?

I think I indicated twice at the top of the thread that I felt for the truckie......

What I don’t get is the way we refer to the authorities........who are doing their job.

Just asking the question were is the line in the sand once you have exceeded the rules or regs before you’re in trouble........makes it hard for the authorities.

All I’m saying is one cannot complain if you’re breaking the rules and get done.

I few years ago I got done for having a fishing rod holder on the front bar and wasn’t carrying fishing rods.......I just copped it fine.

Originally Posted by weeds

I think I indicated twice at the top of the thread that I felt for the truckie......

What I don’t get is the way we refer to the authorities........who are doing their job.

Just asking the question were is the line in the sand once you have exceeded the rules or regs before you’re in trouble........makes it hard for the authorities.

All I’m saying is one cannot complain if you’re breaking the rules and get done.

I few years ago I got done for having a fishing rod holder on the front bar and wasn’t carrying fishing rods.......I just copped it fine.

The difference being Weeds, it was no big effort for you to comply. With a load of hay you can start the trip compliant then the load settles. There is no way anyone can predict if, or by how much settlement will occur.
Drivers are not equipped, nor is it practical to equip drivers with the sophisticated gear that enforcement agencies utilize.

As an ex-truckie I can tell you categorically the a lot the RMS, Vic Roads, TMR inspectors or whatever they are called in your state are evil and just have a vindictive nature towards trucks. Now, having said that there are those in the ranks that are decent human beings and treat drives with respect and get respect in return.

I was once fined ($150) by one of the lesser of these individuals for not have my employers address in a new log book that I had for less than 24hrs. I knew the address off the top of my head and said sorry I'll write it now, too late was all he said.

There used to be a rule of an additional 50mm over 2500mm but that was scrapped and the only allowable width beyond the trailer is now load restraint items. Had a load of steel plate once that was about 2cm over the coaming rail and told the loader that it would be leaving as "Oversize". They weren't happy but I was the one driving it. Know a bloke that got pulled into the weighbridge at Twelve Mile Ck just north of Newcastle, had a load of spuds. One bag had shifted on a pallet, one bag, and was pushing the curtain out about 3cm, the scrotum at the weighbridge wouldn't let him leave until he had the approiate signs and lights or the load was rearranged.

Originally Posted by ChookD2

As an ex-truckie I can tell you categorically the a lot the RMS, Vic Roads, TMR inspectors or whatever they are called in your state are evil and just have a vindictive nature towards trucks. Now, having said that there are those in the ranks that are decent human beings and treat drives with respect and get respect in return.

I was once fined ($150) by one of the lesser of these individuals for not have my employers address in a new log book that I had for less than 24hrs. I knew the address off the top of my head and said sorry I'll write it now, too late was all he said.

There used to be a rule of an additional 50mm over 2500mm but that was scrapped and the only allowable width beyond the trailer is now load restraint items. Had a load of steel plate once that was about 2cm over the coaming rail and told the loader that it would be leaving as "Oversize". They weren't happy but I was the one driving it. Know a bloke that got pulled into the weighbridge at Twelve Mile Ck just north of Newcastle, had a load of spuds. One bag had shifted on a pallet, one bag, and was pushing the curtain out about 3cm, the scrotum at the weighbridge wouldn't let him leave until he had the approiate signs and lights or the load was rearranged.

Thats better than the ones who let you leave but advise the mermaids and let them pull you over.

One thing I do know about mermaids... They do not like it when you get pulled over in a military truck, you give them your military drivers license and refuse to hand over your civilian license.

The next mob like it even less when you write up the time you spent at the first mermaid "stop" waiting for them to work out what they're going to do as "break" time (45 minutes asleep on the tray while the co-driver who outranked me but didn't have a license did the talking)

A while ago I was the exec for a commercial fishing sector.

Got a call from a member who'd just been to court for having a couple of crays that were 0.1mm undersize, which put a stain on his unblemished career.

Crays are measured from a vee shaped notch at the front of the head to the straight edge at the back of it. On the boat this is done with a bronze gauge.

'Enthusiastic' young fisheries officers were using vernier callipers at the wharf to verify the legality of the catch. Anyone who has been trained in the use of verniers knows that there is a certain 'feel' involved in getting the correct dimension of an object with flat sides, which becomes complicated further if a vee shape is involved.

A cordial chat with a higher authority ensued over a couple of beers.

It was pointed out that these officers had probably never been trained in the use of vernier callipers and measuring with all the force both hands could muster (whilst holding the animal down with one's foot on the wharf) could possibly lead to an inaccurate reading.

Two weeks later standard operating procedure across the state mysteriously changed.......... officers were issued with the commercial gauges and the verniers were only used if a cray failed the primary 'measurement' with the gauge, to determine the actual measurement in mm.

Everyone was happy.

cheers, DL

Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

Thats better than the ones who let you leave but advise the mermaids and let them pull you over.

One thing I do know about mermaids... They do not like it when you get pulled over in a military truck, you give them your military drivers license and refuse to hand over your civilian license.

The next mob like it even less when you write up the time you spent at the first mermaid "stop" waiting for them to work out what they're going to do as "break" time (45 minutes asleep on the tray while the co-driver who outranked me but didn't have a license did the talking)

Wouldn't a re-alignment of a 50 cal have hastened the interception?

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Wouldn't a re-alignment of a 50 cal have hastened the interception?

yes but unfortunately not fitted to the R series as standard arsenal, I just used the next best thing and threw an officer at the engagement made a tactical withdrawal until the maelstrom subsided leaving my desired route free from undesirable enemy presence.

Why would I want to waste oxygen with mermaids when I had someone else to do it while I could utilize the O2 better by theorizing I could hasten our journey by eliminating a rest break if I took that break now and by some inventive rewording of the requirements under commonwealth regs have a set of documents produced by the officials that would ensure an expeditious termination of any such future probings by similar unfriendlies.

Officers, like lawyers, occasionally have uses, even if its just to act as a decoy/delaying action until the engaging force gets bored and decide to leave you alone.