Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 52

Thread: Why and how did the NT government lease the Port of Darwin to a Chinese firm ?

  1. #11
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Perth Western Australia
    Posts
    2,638
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Ean Austral View Post
    Old news - happened ages ago and no one but the yanks objected . Not sure what's worse -leasing infrastructure to another country OR another seperate country objecting to us leasing to another country.

    They wonder why the NT is broke and people leaving in droves, lease our port then do a deal for someone to build an onshore gas processing plant where we don't get 1 ltr of gas and no royalties. - Yep the luck country.

    Cheers Ean
    x2
    Regards
    Daz


  2. #12
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    cairns
    Posts
    1,675
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    This article goes into the details of what happened. As our PM said when asked during a visit to Darwin " they didn't tell us " Pays to read the article.
    So the Port of Darwin goes on sale ‘lease’ and the Federal Govt. knows nothing about it?

    Give me a break.....
    Paul.

    77 series3 (sold)
    95 300Tdi Ute (sold)
    2003 XTREME Td5

    I thought I was wrong once, but I was mistaken.

  3. #13
    Join Date
    Jan 1970
    Location
    Ringwood, Vic
    Posts
    2,127
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Leasing, as opposed to selling a piece of infrastructure to a foreign country makes a great deal of sense. Should the lessee break the terms of the lease (ie, become an aggressor to us), the lease would simply be cancelled and all improvements made by the lessee would be forfeited to the government.
    People panic unnecessarily sometimes and the calls of ‘emotive clap trap’ in this thread are well founded.
    The fact that the NT government appears to have completely wasted the proceeds from the lease is another matter. I’d say that THEY are more a threat to national security than anyone else.

    We have far too many governments in this country. THAT is a very sad fact. When NT got its own government (previously they came under SA), along with an entire parliament for ACT it just made the waste worse than ever
    D4 SDV6, a blank canvas

  4. #14
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    brighton, brisbane
    Posts
    33,853
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Ean Austral View Post
    at the time it was going thru consultation phase they were originally going to include fishermans wharf and the fishing boat harbour commonly known as the duck pond. At the time I was directly or indirectly managing about 35 boats so I attended at least a dozen meetings and some were open public meetings and some were closed with both landbridge reps and what surprised me was usually only 1 person from local government. During those times both sides of government had senior ministers visit Darwinbut they never seemed to care , they were more concerned about the impex gas plant being build in the harbour which is I think Japanese owned and the first 15 yrs of gas is already marked for overseas not a drop for local sales.

    At 1 of the meetings I got chatting to a couple of blokes from the US state department who were amazed at the lack of concern from Australians.

    I did read the article.

    Cheers Ean
    Thanks Ian. I just can't believe this was allowed to happen.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

  5. #15
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    On The Road
    Posts
    30,031
    Total Downloaded
    0
    One port leased to another Government might be fine,,,
    bit when THAT same Government leases a second,, surely ALARM bells should be ringing in Canberra...
    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

    '93 V8 Rossi
    '97 to '07. sold.
    '01 V8 D2
    '06 to 10. written off.
    '03 4.6 V8 HSE D2a with Tornado ECM
    '10 to '21
    '16.5 RRS SDV8
    '21 to Infinity and Beyond!


    1988 Isuzu Bus. V10 15L NA Diesel
    Home is where you park it..

    [IMG][/IMG]

  6. #16
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    brighton, brisbane
    Posts
    33,853
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by harro View Post
    So the Port of Darwin goes on sale ‘lease’ and the Federal Govt. knows nothing about it?

    Give me a break.....
    That's what I thought. Read the article.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

  7. #17
    Ean Austral Guest
    Apparently the US Navy was looking at building a major naval base in the next harbour to the west of Darwin Harbour . Bynoe harbour has very deep water access and is close enough to Darwin as the crow flys that major road access wouldn't be that hard, there are already roads that lead to several parts of it now . This probably has a lot to do with why the USA was so against the lease of Darwin port.

    I am not sure if that plan is still on the table or not , but remember we do have s big contingent of Marine up here all year round .

    Cheers Ean

  8. #18
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    brighton, brisbane
    Posts
    33,853
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Ean Austral View Post
    Apparently the US Navy was looking at building a major naval base in the next harbour to the west of Darwin Harbour . Bynoe harbour has very deep water access and is close enough to Darwin as the crow flys that major road access wouldn't be that hard, there are already roads that lead to several parts of it now . This probably has a lot to do with why the USA was so against the lease of Darwin port.

    I am not sure if that plan is still on the table or not , but remember we do have s big contingent of Marine up here all year round .

    Cheers Ean
    If Japan succeeds in moving most of the Marines on Okinawa, Prepare for many more.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

  9. #19
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Location
    brighton, brisbane
    Posts
    33,853
    Total Downloaded
    0
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

  10. #20
    Join Date
    May 2017
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    2,661
    Total Downloaded
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Ean Austral View Post
    at the time it was going thru consultation phase they were originally going to include fishermans wharf and the fishing boat harbour commonly known as the duck pond. At the time I was directly or indirectly managing about 35 boats so I attended at least a dozen meetings and some were open public meetings and some were closed with both landbridge reps and what surprised me was usually only 1 person from local government. During those times both sides of government had senior ministers visit Darwinbut they never seemed to care , they were more concerned about the impex gas plant being build in the harbour which is I think Japanese owned and the first 15 yrs of gas is already marked for overseas not a drop for local sales.

    At 1 of the meetings I got chatting to a couple of blokes from the US state department who were amazed at the lack of concern from Australians.

    I did read the article.

    Cheers Ean
    That's really interesting. But if the US State Department had people at the meetings, how was it that they later claimed to not have known about it? Why didn't they raise it with their counterparts in Canberra? Sounds like someone really stuffed up.

    Plus, agree with others that a Chinese company leasing a port is not the same as leasing a port to the PLA. Really don't see a problem with it, and the "article" never really explicitly sets out how it would be an issue.
    Arapiles
    2014 D4 HSE

Page 2 of 6 FirstFirst 1234 ... LastLast

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Search AULRO.com ONLY!
Search All the Web!