Thread: Petrol VS diesel?

Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

I agree. If you can't tow at the speed limit where it is possible and safe to do so then either the driver or the rig needs changing to one that can.

Absolutely. 100% agree.

The Bickie dippers talk of fatigue so drive slower, except that longer behind the wheel = fatigue.
They then counter with “it’s safer” - only if the combination being used is unsafe.

Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

I agree. If you can't tow at the speed limit where it is possible and safe to do so then either the driver or the rig needs changing to one that can.

In my opinion anyone towing 3-3.5 ton should not be doing it with mid size SUVS and dual cabs (unless it is a American dual cab). Regardless of fuel type.

Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

I agree. If you can't tow at the speed limit where it is possible and safe to do so then either the driver or the rig needs changing to one that can.

Absolutely. 100% agree.

The Bickie dippers talk of fatigue so drive slower, except that longer behind the wheel = fatigue.
They then counter with “it’s safer” - only if the combination being used is unsafe.

Originally Posted by 1nando

In my opinion anyone towing 3-3.5 ton should not be doing it with mid size SUVS and dual cabs (unless it is a American dual cab). Regardless of fuel type.

Get a tug with a minimum of 400 hp and at least 5 litres.

Originally Posted by Bigbjorn

Get a tug with a minimum of 400 hp and at least 5 litres.

Or a lighter van!

Amazes me how much “old school” (read heavy) materials are built into a modern Caravan just because most vehicles ‘can’ tow 3-3.5t

With composites, sandwich fibreglass etc a full size off-road van should be sub 2.5t

When I see vans at shows with stone bench tops, hard wood cupboards etc I just shake my head and move on.

this is one of the dumbest things I've read on this forum. I'd be for implementing a 80km/h speed limit on caravans unless they are 5th wheelers. Caravans are to big and light .... They are swaying uncontrollable bastard things unless your on your toes. There is nothing scarier on the roads than a grey nomad with there 3ton (loaded to 4ton) monstrosity hurtling down the roads with there cruise control set to 100km/h.

I wouldn't care if my car was fitted with a supercharged LS7 .......... I'd still likely be doing 85km/h ............... probably slower, as that is the safe speed to tow a large wind sail in. In gusty winds I've been down to 60km/h down around warnanbool in the past.

I'm honestly amazed not far more poeple die. You guys sound like the person that told me a few years ago.... modern truckies are assholes. They don't need to take the big swinging turns these days. It is just laziness as they have power steering in trucks these days (so why should he let them turn left from the right lane .... etc..). Yes I **** you not. Did you know the only reason a truck swing out wide is because it gives the driver a chance to turn the steering wheel enough

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

this is one of the dumbest things I've read on this forum. I'd be for implementing a 80km/h speed limit on caravans unless they are 5th wheelers. Caravans are to big and light .... They are swaying uncontrollable bastard things unless your on your toes. There is nothing scarier on the roads than a grey nomad with there 3ton (loaded to 4ton) monstrosity hurtling down the roads with there cruise control set to 100km/h.

I wouldn't care if my car was fitted with a supercharged LS7 .......... I'd still likely be doing 85km/h ............... probably slower, as that is the safe speed to tow a large wind sail in. In gusty winds I've been down to 60km/h down around warnanbool in the past.

I'm honestly amazed not far more poeple die. You guys sound like the person that told me a few years ago.... modern truckies are assholes. They don't need to take the big swinging turns these days. It is just laziness as they have power steering in trucks these days (so why should he let them turn left from the right lane .... etc..). Yes I **** you not. Did you know the only reason a truck swing out wide is because it gives the driver a chance to turn the steering wheel enough

The wide swing is to clear the obstacle as the trailer does not follow the same track as the prime mover...

Cheers

I was once passed on the M1 North of Sydney by a Statesman towing a big van at at least 140Kmh.

I marvelled at his/her chutzpah.

Regards PhilipA