Grumpy old buggers thread

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Parking spaces are often too narrow, particularly for larger vehicles. Park 2 x 4WDs side by side and it gets very tight.
Our Defender's sidesteps have scratches where people have banged them with their doors. The sidesteps saved our doors.
I have taken to backing into spaces in underground parking stations, just to make it easier to get out again.

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Spaces are by law to a standard.
Check the standard. If they don’t comply, complain.

2 x 4wds aren’t any worse than 2x full size sedans.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Illusion….

VZ Commodore - 1,847mm wide
D2 - 1,890mm
Pre2018 Defender - 1,790mm
New Defender - 1,996mm
Discovery 4 - 2,176mm

200 Series - 1,970mm
Y62 - 1,995mm

Dodge RAM - 2,018mm

Narrower than a D4 [emoji38]

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T909 - 2,500mm (excluding mirrors)
[bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

T909 - 2,500mm (excluding mirrors)
[bigwhistle]

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T1250 Pit Hauler - 4,041mm excluding mirrors [emoji12]

785C - 6,200mm tray width [emoji38]

You drive a KW , Ian?

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Originally Posted by Hogarthde

You drive a KW , Ian?

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On occasions I have to bear that shame, Dave. Any Yank, or Yank derivative beats those girly Eurobusses, but Western Star is the cream of the cream.

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Originally Posted by V8Ian

On occasions I have to bear that shame, Dave. Any Yank, or Yank derivative beats those girly Eurobusses, but Western Star is the cream of the cream.

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but Western Star is the cream of the cream.

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Coincidentally that is also the monniker of a Vic. Butter. Well done Ian.[bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by Grumbles

How many times has your car been keyed?

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I forgot to mention that I take a porting shot with the phone, of the two cars together. You know, for happy snaps... and evidence.

Yes, I'm probably guilty, despite having 2 reversing cameras on the Defender.
I'm quite content to let people wait while I get it right, rather than rushing and bumping. Relax people!

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Originally Posted by 4bee

So it is you "Arse AboutParkers" that hold up the flow of traffic looking for other freed spots?.

Some drivers can't reverse park for toffee outdoors, let alone in a lined car Park. By the time they fiddle & faff around & eventually get in (at an angle because they have become frustrated at their lack of driving ability & near enough is good enough) the shopping day is just about over. How they would fare with a Trailer behind, anywhere else is also questionable.

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Well done Tombie!

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Spaces are by law to a standard.
Check the standard. If they don’t comply, complain.

2 x 4wds aren’t any worse than 2x full size sedans.

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How they're arranged is something else..

I've done a fair bit of data collection work for a traffic engineer (designs carparks, roundabouts, etc, etc for small and large gov, developers, blah,blah) and it is quite surprising how things can be interpreted to suit the client.

DL