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Animals response to a bushfire, and some tricks they use to survive.


Animal response to a bushfire is astounding. These are the tricks they use to survive

From the Betoota Advocate. Some organisations to donate to for the bush fires, if you are not sure. All bona fide genuine organisations.

Hello readers, Happy New Year readers. Another year gone. There's been plenty of awful news coming from the bushfires that are still raging across many parts of the country. Many have lost everything and many more are doing it tough, and will be for quite some time. The nation has dug deep, and we've compiled a list of organisation's doing incredible things if you are able to donate: Donations to the Salvation Army, the Australian Red Cross and state-based brigades like the New South Wales Rural Fire Service, Victoria’s Country Fire Authority and South Australia’s Country Fire Service will go towards bushfire efforts. You can also donate money to the RSPCA’s bushfire appeal. NSW Wildlife Information Rescue and Education Service (WIRES), a not-for-profit where trained volunteers rehabilitate injured wildlife, is also accepting donations to help pay for things including food, medical supplies and vet fees. Wildlife Victoria says donations to its bushfire relief fund will be distributed to wildlife shelters around the state and carers to help rebuild enclosures and equipment that they have lost in the fires. To support farmers and their injured livestock, you can find more information at FarmHub, a National Farmers’ Federation initiative. Until next week. Errol Parker Editor-at-large

Originally Posted by PhilipA

Just on the intensity subject, I was in the Perth hills a few years ago and we had to deliver something to a burned out area.

It was evident that it was a cool fire as the trees were not damaged , yet there were several houses burnt out .

My thoughts then were that it is much better to stay and fight embers if the fire is only an understory fire .

You don't have much hope in a top fire however , but I remember when I first went to Melbourne there was a big top fire in the Dandenongs and yet among the rows of burnt out houses in Emerald AFAIR there would still be one or two undamaged, and usually a small wooden house which defied understanding.
The common understanding then was that a top fire "storm" exhausted all the oxygen at ground level and you died of asphyxiation.
Regards PhilipA

I see people were being told not to try to fight some of the fires in Victoria because the intense heat would kill them before the fire front actually reached them.

I've looked at our house and decided it would be impossible to defend because there are treetops all around us on neighbouring properties, particularly eucalyptus, which would explode in flames and nothing we could do could stop that happening. If we stayed the burning trees would also block our escape route. So if a fire comes, we won't be indulging in any heroics, we are leaving.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I see people were being told not to try to fight some of the fires in Victoria because the intense heat would kill them before the fire front actually reached them.

I've looked at our house and decided it would be impossible to defend because there are treetops all around us on neighbouring properties, particularly eucalyptus, which would explode in flames and nothing we could do could stop that happening. If we stayed the burning trees would also block our escape route. So if a fire comes, we won't be indulging in any heroics, we are leaving.

Sensible thinking. You can always replace a house. Make sure all your memories [ photos etc] along with insurance papers etc are stowed in a suitable container. But you'd know that. Good luck for the future. This has been a nightmare for so many people.

The PM will take a proposal for a Royal Commission on the bush fires to cabinet.

Scott Morrison to take proposal for bushfire royal commission to Cabinet

I hope this RC isn't hijacked by people peddling misinformation and lies to try to divert attention from the underlying cause of the bushfires being so serious, which is climate change.

Disinformation and lies are spreading faster than Australia's bushfires

Disinformation and lies are spreading faster than Australia's bushfires | Australia news | The Guardian

Scott Morrison flags bushfires royal commission and says Coalition could bolster emissions targets

Scott Morrison flags bushfires royal commission and says Coalition could bolster emissions targets | Australia news | The Guardian

This blokes RCs seemed effective. Probably due to a lack of outside interference and PC in the day.

Leonard Edward Bishop Stretton - Wikipedia

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

I hope this RC isn't hijacked by people peddling misinformation and lies to try to divert attention from the underlying cause of the bushfires being so serious, which is climate change.

Disinformation and lies are spreading faster than Australia's bushfires

Disinformation and lies are spreading faster than Australia's bushfires | Australia news | The Guardian

Scott Morrison flags bushfires royal commission and says Coalition could bolster emissions targets

Scott Morrison flags bushfires royal commission and says Coalition could bolster emissions targets | Australia news | The Guardian

Everything may depend on who heads the RC , and the terms of reference. A good start would be to have General Cosgrove head it. IMO.