Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by bob10

I'm not sure what you are suggesting. Do you suggest that we shouldn't take this threat seriously? Are you saying that we should just let people get infected, and let the virus run its course? Are you saying you don't acknowledge the good work done by health professionals, and contact tracers, and indeed, State Governments with the restrictions put in place. To me it's a curious attude to suggest none of the efforts matter. Sometimes it seems that the furthur away from the epicentre the more out of touch with reality people become. I'll be happy to have zero in ICU , kneejerk or not.

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For Knee Jerks? Down the Corridor, turn left, 3 doors along on your right, not ICU.


No wonder we seem to be in a mess. Cluttering up other facilities.:Rolling:

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Good points. We don't hear much, if anything, about those who have succumbed after being tested +. If any, that is.

Have they all been buried en masse in Canberra's lovely gardens like we saw in South America & Italy or have they got over it or are we not being told?


Cynical? Moi? [bighmmm]

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The information is available if you look for it. Alice Springs has a 72 hour lock down, 5 community cases in S.A., and hospitals in Sydney on alert after a nurse tests positive. And the beat goes on.

Millions more Australians enter lockdown | The New Daily

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Originally Posted by 4bee

For Knee Jerks? Down the Corridor, turn left, 3 doors along on your right, not ICU.


No wonder we seem to be in a mess. Cluttering up other facilities.:Rolling:

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Good to see the sense of humour is still there. Just a heads up, all the information you seek can be found in the Governments twitter feed. NO,NO don't open the window, not those birds. [smilebigeye]

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Originally Posted by bob10

Good to see the sense of humour is still there. Just a heads up, all the information you seek can be found in the Governments twitter feed. NO,NO don't open the window, not those birds. [smilebigeye]

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Thanks bob, may it never leave me although one day it will, permanently.[bigsad]

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Thanks bob, may it never leave me although one day it will, permanently.[bigsad]

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You really know how to cheer the room up, think I'll go and kick the dog......Just kidding :lol:

i would like to know what people here think can be done to speed up the vaccine rollout?
i hear a lot of finger pointing but no solutions.
if more pfizer vaccines cant be acquired due to production limits, is that the govt fault?

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Originally Posted by Eevo

i would like to know what people here think can be done to speed up the vaccine rollout?
i hear a lot of finger pointing but no solutions.
if more pfizer vaccines cant be acquired due to production limits, is that the govt fault?

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1. Remove the restrictions and Controls on Medicare Item numbers and allow Doctors/nurses/pharmacist to provide it when ever they can
2. Enable FAST TRACK PRODA A.I.R. integration to Doctors Medical software- We send Vaccine information hundreds at a time to the Australian Immunization Registry but seeing that information in GP land is a significant PITA and not practical as it really slow one at a time access which doesn't work when we are doing hundreds or more vaccination at a time. Some beta tests of that is finally occurring[bighmmm]
3. Stop the inconsistent changing messages- Some people will die if we all do not get a vaccine- its that Simple- Get one when offered. If not the Delta variation the next or the next one will get to us if not. [bigwhistle]
4. Remove political bravado and waffle putting the science at front and centre not fear and misconceptions
5. Ensure only vaccinated people are any where near hospitals, Aged care, Airports and accommodation locations which have anything to do with possible Covid exposures. Sack or redeploy vaccine refusers from these vital and exposed roles

Smack stupid? - Just kidding that's violent and not appropriate [biggrin]

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Originally Posted by bob10

I'm not sure what you are suggesting. Do you suggest that we shouldn't take this threat seriously? Are you saying that we should just let people get infected, and let the virus run its course? Are you saying you don't acknowledge the good work done by health professionals, and contact tracers, and indeed, State Governments with the restrictions put in place. To me it's a curious attude to suggest none of the efforts matter. Sometimes it seems that the furthur away from the epicentre the more out of touch with reality people become. I'll be happy to have zero in ICU , kneejerk or not.

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Bob, I did say that I was more than happy with no ICU patients and only 40 hospitalised. I'd like to see none in hospital.

What I am trying to say is, is that the hysteria of last year about how lethal this virus was, remember, when the planet's population was going to be wiped out, is not borne out by figures i.e. worldwide 182,000,000 cases and 3,900,000 deaths. Now, I know a lot of deaths would not be recorded but, neither would a lot of cases.
Also, how does the comorbidity data figure in the results?

Why is no up to date advice on the severity of this thing given by the pollies or the health people?

Information is definitely withheld by authorities, as in the case of the big flu scare of several years ago. A major, Qld hospital was on high alert, with extra, specialised treatment areas ready and serious contingency plans. These details were never made public, so as not to panic the sheep. Not saying 'Right or Wrong, just making the point.

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

1. Remove the restrictions and Controls on Medicare Item numbers and allow Doctors/nurses/pharmacist to provide it when ever they can
2. Enable FAST TRACK PRODA A.I.R. integration to Doctors Medical software- We send Vaccine information hundreds at a time to the Australian Immunization Registry but seeing that information in GP land is a significant PITA and not practical as it really slow one at a time access which doesn't work when we are doing hundreds or more vaccination at a time. Some beta tests of that is finally occurring[bighmmm]
3. Stop the inconsistent changing messages- Some people will die if we all do not get a vaccine- its that Simple- Get one when offered. If not the Delta variation the next or the next one will get to us if not. [bigwhistle]
4. Remove political bravado and waffle putting the science at front and centre not fear and misconceptions
5. Ensure only vaccinated people are any where near hospitals, Aged care, Airports and accommodation locations which have anything to do with possible Covid exposures. Sack or redeploy vaccine refusers from these vital and exposed roles

Smack stupid? - Just kidding that's violent and not appropriate [biggrin]

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all of those excellent ideas. but they all about distribution, not acquisition of the vaccine.
and number 5 is violation of Nuremberg code 1947 and Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948