Corona Virus

See that the FDA in the USA have issued a warning for Pfizer and Moderna causing heart inflammation ( Myocarditis ) in young adults , not sure how serious a problem this is yet .

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Originally Posted by Eevo

all of those excellent ideas. but they all about distribution, not acquisition of the vaccine.
and number 5 is violation of Nuremberg code 1947 and Universal Declaration of Human Rights 1948

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Who would have even considered/foresaw that in 1948? This thing is much too important to control than worrying about archaic & historic ideals of that time.


We are in today's world, not 1948 & coincidentally when the first Land Rover hit the deck as it happens.[bighmmm]

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Originally Posted by Fatso

See that the FDA in the USA have issued a warning for Pfizer and Moderna causing heart inflammation ( Myocarditis ) in young adults , not sure how serious a problem this is yet .

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It is a known small rare issue. Just hope its not blown up like the AZ blood clot monster[bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

What for simply reporting all the changes that the authorities have been making - and broadcasting media conferences live where these people and making changes every day - that is not the media.

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If only it was like that then there wouldn't be a problem.

But when people are thinking that if they have a shot of AZ that they're going to die of a blood clot because thats how it is presented by the media, then that is a problem.

In Australia the risk is between 0.0014% and 0.003% of getting TTS (clotting) and the risk of it being fatal was between 0.00035% and 0.00075% initially. Now there shouldn't be a reason for it to be fatal. “We can recognise it, we can diagnose it, and we can treat it,” said Huyen Tran, head of the Alfred hospital’s thrombosis and haemostasis unit.

On the other hand, in Australia the mortality rate of covid is about 3%.

This is what the media should be presenting... but it probably doesn't sell media.

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Yes because they did not order it in sufficient quanitites last year when they had the chance (we went from the front of the queue to the back of the queue) and put almost all there eggs in the AZ basket because we were going to make it here. Now that public confidence in AZ is gone, not because of blood clots but public administration bungling Az is being ditched and there is not enough Pfizer to make up the shortfall.

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doenst matter how many you order. if they cant make enough, its trivial

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Shirley you would see a lot of finger pointing, not hear it, unless you have super duper sensitive hearing.


Of course it is the Govts fault. It is always the Govts fault no matter what the problem is.

You should know that. :soapbox: [bigrolf]:Rolling:

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i think thats part of australia's problem.

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Originally Posted by 4bee

This thing is much too important to control than worrying about archaic & historic ideals of that time.

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holy crap 4bee. every dictator has used that excuse with their rise to power.

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Originally Posted by Saitch

I'm not offering up a conspiracy. I just want to know whether it is as lethal as first thought. Going by valid, Qld health figures, it's not, which, if true, is wonderful.
I mean, none of the recent, positive cases are in hospital, as far as I can ascertain!

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All positive cases are sent to hospital. That's how the young girl was infected, from the covid ward at P.C. There are 5 hospitals that have dedicated covid wards.[ from memory] The CMO wanted one complete hospital as the covid hospital, but it was deemed impractical. The info you are after may be here. Click on see more.

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Queensland COVID-19 statistics | Health and wellbeing | Queensland Government (www.qld.gov.au)

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

It is a known small rare issue. Just hope its not blown up like the AZ blood clot monster[bigwhistle]

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Well, here it is. I think it works out as 1.2% of all covid cases.

Frontiers | Acute Transverse Myelitis (ATM):Clinical Review of 43 Patients With COVID-19-Associated ATM and 3 Post-Vaccination ATM Serious Adverse Events With the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 Vaccine (AZD1222) | Immunology (frontiersin.org)