Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by bob10

Possible super spreader event at the Meriton Suites Hotel in Waterloo, may keep Sydney in lock down. On one hand you have hundreds of dedicated people from the Premier down working hard to get on top of the outbreak, and the other a handful of {[ ] put your own word there.} ' others ' doing their own thing.

NSW lockdown uncertainty amid community virus spread | The New Daily

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I've been to Sydney a couple of times this year for work and my impression is that people there don't take covid seriously, probably because they haven't had a serious outbreak. In their minds, Covid is something that happens elsewhere, like in Melbourne. I remember getting into a small lift to go to a rooftop bar and myself and a colleague from Melbourne hung back to get another one and the local clients and colleagues were laughing at us for not wanting to be in a lift with more than two other people. True, but that's still the rule in my building in Melbourne, even when there isn't an outbreak or lockdown.

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Originally Posted by windsock

And now we have the Lambda variant beginning to concern scientists. We are going to become familiar with the greek alphabet this year. We went from Delta to Lambda. I wondered what happened to Epsilon to Kappa. It appears there are two classifications. Variants of Concern and Variants of Interest. Lambda is on the Variants of Interest at the moment (same list has Epsilon to Kappa) but it appear it is being considered for an upgrade. It appears it may be more contagious again and again questions about the efficacy of current vaccines. *sigh*

Tracking SARS-CoV-2 variants

Covid 19 coronavirus: Lambda strain hits UK - NZ Herald

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Current article in The Economist explains the mutations and suggests that there are only limited options for the virus that work - so there will apparently be some limit to the possible mutations.

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Originally Posted by bob10

Then why the hysterical reaction to the Victorian lockdown , and to a lesser extent, the QLD one? Just politics?

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Vaccinations are voluntary, not compulsory, which is why you have to sign paperwork before getting jabbed, so they can't force aged care workers to get vaxed, but they can say you have to be vaxed to work in aged care, which is a federal government responsibility.

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I signed no paperwork for either of my two jabs... I did have a quick Q&A before each covering any allergies and if I was pregnant tho

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Originally Posted by superquag

Then aren't we so glad that estimates for reporting... suggest as low as 1% of actual events.

VAERS Reporting is only the first step to full on suing for vaccine damages compensation,- for which PROOF of "BECAUSE needs be established. VERY tightly from what I've heard, yet VAERS has at 2011, forked out over $2 billion
(and we thought that dealing with CENTRELINK was 'Impossible'. !)

Dunno what our TGA is up to ... COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 27-05-2021 | Therapeutic Goods Administration (TGA)

Australian Lawyers are not as proactive as their U$ counterparts, so it may be a while before we have any interesting cases.

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If you have heard that tight proof of causality needs to be established for compensation to be paid, then you have heard wrong.

You seem to be unaware of the purpose of VAERS and don't seem to have read or understood the disclaimers on the VAERS website.

These articles, and numerous others, explain in detail why what you have said about the significance of VAERS data and compensation is just plain wrong.

Vaccine Injury Court: Here'''s the Truth | Time

The COVID-19 “Vaccine Holocaust”: The latest antivaccine messaging | Science-Based Medicine

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Originally Posted by spie

I signed no paperwork for either of my two jabs... I did have a quick Q&A before each covering any allergies and if I was pregnant tho

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I understand that if you’ve made and appointment for vaccination, turned up for that vaccination, completed a questionnaire for that vaccination, sat down and rolled up your sleeve for the vaccination, then that could reasonably be construed in a court that you’ve consented to receiving the vaccination despite not actually signing anything.

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Originally Posted by RHS58

I understand that if you’ve made and appointment for vaccination, turned up for that vaccination, completed a questionnaire for that vaccination, sat down and rolled up your sleeve for the vaccination, then that could reasonably be construed in a court that you’ve consented to receiving the vaccination despite not actually signing anything.

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Totally agree, I rolled up my sleeve and consented to getting stuck in the arm.

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Originally Posted by spie

I signed no paperwork for either of my two jabs... I did have a quick Q&A before each covering any allergies and if I was pregnant tho

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These are the two questionnares for the Qld jab. I think the first is the one for the jab, the second for the discussion with a GP. I will stand corrected.

Headlined as the pre-vaccination screening questions; You will note with this one there is a box to be ticked, " proceed with vaccination yes/no."

COVID-19 Pre-Vaccination Screening Questions | Queensland Health

Headlined as the Decision support guide June 2021;


COVID-19 Vaccination Screening Questions | Queensland Health

Just had my second jab. Waited the mandatory 15 minutes & walked home, such a beautiful day. [ Well, it is QLD[smilebigeye]] By tomorrow the record of full vaccination should be in MyGov, medicare section [ or perhaps in Vet Affairs for me] So, the wife & I will be safe to fly to Townsville in a few weeks to watch Manly play the Cowboys. [ If the NRL is still going after the ST George fiasco] Wife will take a week off work, we will do the tourist thing, all things going well. LG.

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Originally Posted by bob10

Just had my second jab. Waited the mandatory 15 minutes & walked home, such a beautiful day. [ Well, it is QLD[smilebigeye]] By tomorrow the record of full vaccination should be in MyGov, medicare section [ or perhaps in Vet Affairs for me] So, the wife & I will be safe to fly to Townsville in a few weeks to watch Manly play the Cowboys. [ If the NRL is still going after the ST George fiasco] Wife will take a week off work, we will do the tourist thing, all things going well. LG.

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Bob, if you had AZ I trust they told you Maximum Protection is at 3 weeks & not before? Well, that is what we were advised but I am sure you of all people would be aware of this.

I say "of all people" because you do seem to be on top of what is going on, but just a reminder.

For Fizzer I have no idea.[bighmmm]