Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick;[URL="tel:3095109"

3095109[/URL]]Bottom line is all Covid outbreaks in Australia are imported. We don't manufacture SARS2 here.

Of each 198 positive cases in hotel quarantine, one leaks into the community. That's how the Sydney limo driver got infected, from air crew.

Therefore, fixing quarantine so it is secure is fundamental to life returning to normal.

Vaccinations mean fewer people getting infected, so outbreaks don't spread to so many people. If we each infect fewer than 1 person, then outbreaks will die out in time.

Sydney's outbreak demonstrates that the idea that lockdowns can be delayed proportionally has failed. The best strategy is to go fast and hard, as other states have repeatedly demonstrated.

Sydney's numbers, while shocking, are far fewer than in Melbourne last year, which reached over 500 a day. So, why is the NSW Government flirting with giving up so easily?

Melbourne people demonstrated how to knuckle down and struggle, at terrible cost, mainly with the 655 deaths in federally-regulated aged care, and win.

Sydney people must stop being complacent and do the same. Easy to say, but hard to do, I know.

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Good summary of the key points. Quarantine & Vaccine remain the two failings causing the lockdowns.

No Job Keeper now and with Jobseeker back below poverty line - both are a big disincentive to stay home. Emergency income support will help for some, but not if staying home means losing your job.

The underlying factor here that few are talking about is elitism, which sees the privileged expecting the under-privileged to live on nothing for the good of the country / state. This is actually the most unsustainable factor in Australia’s gilded cage approach. …for more than half the population the cage is not gilded.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

It's just natures way of keeping all the anciant relics together [biggrin][bigwhistle]

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Classic ! I looked up relic " A surviving species of an otherwise extinct group of organisms." Pretty much it I reckon. Funny I immediately thought of 4Bee. :whistling::Rolling:

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Originally Posted by SpudHeadTed

I’d say you have the answer already - no reason for Pfizer to obfuscate.

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Obfuscate.....must be a discovery driver, no self respecting defender driver would have that in the back pocket.[biggrin]

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Bob, your alleged Poverty just brought a lump to my frote. No really.


I see a Just Giving coming up.[bigrolf]

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As long as it's not a lump in your pants , I suppose it's OK.:o:angel:

OK I have heard of the R thing which indicates how many people one person can infect. Today the NSW Premier said 26 people were out in the community for the duration of their infectious period, and 11 for part of their infectious period. Any one know how that may equate to new infections?

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Originally Posted by bob10

Obfuscate.....must be a discovery driver, no self respecting defender driver would have that in the back pocket.[biggrin]

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Yes most who do it, often with a smirk on their face, don’t know the word to describe what they’re doing; and worse they also think that the majority are patsies and don’t see straight through their attempted obfuscation.

(…Defender owners are immune, for example, due to the attempted obfuscation by Toyota owners - the spin, the smoke and mirrors, the smirking looks, the tactics of convenient wilful denial, the false egalitarianism (despite being twice as expensive for decades), the delusion of marketing over substance) …sound familiar?

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Originally Posted by bob10

Classic ! I looked up relic " A surviving species of an otherwise extinct group of organisms." Pretty much it I reckon. Funny I immediately thought of 4Bee. :whistling::Rolling:

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WELL! ( stands with hands on hips[bigrolf]) With you being older than me you naturally would be looking for someone else to blame & I don't even now own a '95 Discovery.

Survivor alright. 'er indoors looking for something in Google yesterday & discovered a link to the OCT 2020 death of the young bloke that started his Fridgie Apprenticeship the same time as I did at the same place & Bruce & I worked together for 11 or 12 years before he left & later got me a job at his new place for 14 years. He died at year 84 & in another coincidence, when I rocked up for my Nasho at Woodside in '56 the bed space I was allocated to was this bloke's from the intake before (2nd) while mine was the 3rd. Still had his ID card in the bedhead. That soon changed when I was allocated my own room.
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Arse or the makings of a good RA Signals person????? The latter as it turned out.[thumbsupbig]


That was an excellent move as now I could **** out of the window & not have to find my way up to the bog if I wanted a Nocturnal **** in the early hours through the Fog & Rain..


Never hit the Overnight Fire Piquet once either.[bigrolf] Or they never said.[bighmmm]

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Originally Posted by Eevo

from the news tonight


Prime Minister Scott Morrison has shut down suggestions Australia will one day hit 100 per cent vaccination coverage, urging the nation to "get some perspective".


“No country will get to 100 per cent,” Mr Morrison told A Current Affair.


“We cannot totally eradicate the virus. No country will get to 100 per cent.


“This is the myth going around the vaccination debate around the world. There is only one country in the world that has two dose vaccination rate higher than 65 per cent and that is Israel.”


Mr Morrison said it was clear the nation needed to “get some perspective” and shift its coronavirus focus.


“We need to get some perspective. Other countries are opening up because they have had millions of people who have actually contracted the virus and there is more antibodies in that population than other countries that have been riddled with coronavirus,” he said.

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Thanks for posting that Eevo, I didn't hear it.

Advanced Trumpism in the last para.

DL

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Originally Posted by bob10

Any one know what is really going on with the Pfizer vaccine? Pfizer has stated contrary to media reports there is no change in the number of doses the company has contracted to deliver to Australia in 2021.

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Supposedly they're delivering them sooner.

May be yet more smoke and mirrors.

Daughter and partner as well as 9 month old grandson had to be tested today as one of them had to get essentials from Woolies across the road. Then later found out some infected individual had also been shopping at the same location (in Sutherland Shire). :angry2:

Awaiting results with fingers crossed. :unsure: