Corona Virus

The Australian has a No Jab No pay policy so parents get less money for parenting payments

(No Jab No Pay (and No Jab No Play) is an Australian policy initiative which withholds three state payments – Child Care Benefit, the Child Care Rebate and a portion of the fortnightly Family Tax Benefit part A per child – for parents of children under 20 years of age who are not fully immunised or on a recognised catch-up schedule,^[1] and imposes fines on childcare centres that admit unvaccinated children.^[2] The system allows exemptions for children who cannot be safely vaccinated for medical reasons.

and Vic has a No Jab, no Play policy for child hood kinderga.rten entry.

So why haven't they no done this with the covid jabs and not cut benefits to the ones that wont get vaccinated and are putting the rest of the the population at risk?

We are wasting money on enforcement, lock downs, hospitals, help outs etc, not saying it wasn't necessary some of the the money we had to spend and won't recoup could have been spent as a cash bonus incentive for people to get the Jab. People like monetary hand outs.

W&KO Caravaner post:

I liked the polite responses to the OP there.

They must be senile or just full of niceness to a tourist.

Down here it would be F... O.. now.

DL

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Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

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So why haven't they no done tis with the covid jabs and not cut benefits to the ones that wont get vaccinated and are putting the rest of the the population at risk?
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One good reason is that a large part of the shortfall in vaccination is not because people won't get vaccinated, but because they can't. I do not know anyone who does not want to get vaccinated, but on the other hand, it took me six weeks to get an appointment for the first shot after becoming eligible in 1b. Recently looked at the possibility of cutting the gap from the first to the second from twelve weeks to eight, which will be this week, but was advised not to risk losing my existing appointment as the wait on appointments here is currently still six to eight weeks.

The problem seems to be twofold. Firstly, there is simply a shortage of vaccine doses, particularly the Pfitzer ones. But secondly, once you get away from the major cities, there is a shortage of people to give them - in these places there is already a chronic shortage of medical staff, and even without vaccination, the pandemic has brought additional workload in the form of , for example, running testing clinics and preparing for a possible wave of infections.

Some nasty and uninformed attitudes towards migrants coming out in this thread, which is very regrettable, I think.

I think most people are keen to get vaccinated, if they can, so I don't accept the claims about vaccine hesitancy. I see the NSW Government has just cancelled 40,000 Pfizer jabs in regional NSW and sent the vaccines to Sydney, which has seriously annoyed regional residents who are keen to get vaxed, but now can't.

Another point is if the Queensland outbreak in schools and the Sydney mess makes it more urgent to vaccinate young people.
If we hit 80% of eligible people vaxed, but don't vax children, then that means we'll have only covered about two-thirds of the total population, which won't be enough to achieve herd immunity.
It's no wonder there are increasing reports of students and teachers being afraid to go to school in case they get Covid.
Other countries vaccinate children and so should we, I think.
We have plenty of Astra-Zeneca, which is the most-used vaccine world wide, and we should use it. Getting Covid is multiple times more dangerous than getting vaccinated.
Do you agree?

Come on NSW. QLD is lower so I did it honest, not just to suck up to our very helpful MODS Ian [biggrin]


Attachment 172559 There was two kookaburras out side the door laughing at me honest


Good news- I found 4 Pines is made in Manly [thumbsupbig] Thats for you NSW after I get back from a 10 km run[biggrin] Get you ****e in the pile boy and girls- Bye bye Dry July [bigrolf]

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Come on NSW. QLD is lower so I did it honest, not just to suck up to our very helpful MODS Ian [biggrin]


Attachment 172559 There was two kookaburras out side the door laughing at me honest


Good news- I found 4 Pines is made in Manly [thumbsupbig] Thats for you NSW after I get back from a 10 km run[biggrin] Get you ****e in the pile boy and girls- Bye bye July July [bigrolf]

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Lucky 'XXXX' is a palindrome.[smilebigeye]
Not sure how people drink that brew.

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Originally Posted by Saitch

Lucky 'XXXX' is a palindrome.[smilebigeye]
Not sure how people drink that brew.

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I don't mind it whilst I'm in QLD...............

out on a yacht, just pulled the pick, sails up, 9am. [bigrolf]

DL

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Originally Posted by W&KO

On another note……the mind boggles.

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It's odd behaviour, because they do seem to have quite good English. Didn't they understand that they were supposed to stay put? Didn't anyone reach out to their community?

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Originally Posted by Arapiles

It's odd behaviour, because they do seem to have quite good English. Didn't they understand that they were supposed to stay put? Didn't anyone reach out to their community?

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Oh plenty reached out……and they copped a pasting. I think they got the picture the old fashion way.

post was deleted pretty quick.

A couple of people indicated they report via the online dob a covid breech website.

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Originally Posted by W&KO

Agree, all walks of life are breaking the rules…….

I just don’t cop that 18months on people’s try to claim they don’t know the rules……..this includes ‘migrants’…..

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I see your point, but it's also possible some low paid workers are being told they must come to work by their bosses, or get the sack. Some migrants are working in Sydney for as little as $ 9 /hour. They have little understanding of english, do not know they have 'rights' , and are frightened that if they complain they will be sent back to where they came from, or even detention somewhere like Manus Island or Nauru. So they keep their heads down, mouths shut, and keep a low profile. Not realising there are advocates they could approach to help them. Another problem is the boss often is the only english speaker they have in close contact, and the boss is only going to tell them what he has to to keep them at work. And under control. Sound unbelievable in this day and age? You bet. But it's happening.