Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by 350RRC

Exactly right.

Science says 80% plus (meaning 80% of the total population), pollies say we'll get there (meaning 80% of eligible). Which will be a bit over half............ not enough to safely open up.

This is the worst spin I've seen in the last 18 months.

DL

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i think its above 90% required for delta, which would mean doing kids too.

i get the feeling the govt knows it will only just make the 80% mark due to hesitancy.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

i think its above 90% required for delta, which would mean doing kids too.

i get the feeling the govt knows it will only just make the 80% mark due to hesitancy.

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They're saying they'll get to 80%, but it's 80% of eligible, i.e. STILL ONLY A BIT ABOVE 50% OF TOTAL.

Yes, kids have to be done too, but they're not eligible............... yet.

DL

small steps :)
getting to 80% of eligible is an achievable goal

My kids are booked in. I know fit young kids are not normally at high risk from Covid but it is better done than not done. Cheers

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Just a reminder that vaccinating 80% of the eligible population is only about 65% of the total population, which is not enough to achieve herd immunity, so relaxing then could result in another wave of infections among the unvaccinated, which is happening right now in strongly Republican parts of the USA. Not a good example to copy, I think.

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Iceland is at >90% vaccinated but is having a fresh new wave of infections now. So I think we have a very long way to go in this mess yet.....

Yes, Even with 80-90% fully vaccinated, so-called herd immunity is not actually immunity at all, apparently you can still catch and spread the virus when vaccinated. … being vaccinated just means you’re less likely to get seriously unwell. Opening up the country at only 65% of whole population vaccinated will be a disaster.

At this rate NSW / ACT will be in lock down until the end of the year!

…and no State is going to open its border to NSW even if 65% are vaccinated. Vaccine passports seem pointless in terms of borders because you can still spread the virus even if you’re vaccinated.

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Originally Posted by BradC

Does anyone know our Premier? If so, can they please ask him to stop chucking spears at other States because we've been fortunate in avoiding a mass outbreak (I'm still convinced its good luck rather than good management).

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I see he has now banned people from the east from entering WA who are not vaccinated, yet WA has the lowest vaccination rate in the country - is he going to now start deporting WAustralians who have not been vaccinated.

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Originally Posted by 101RRS;[URL="tel:3102881"

3102881[/URL]]I see he has now banned people from the east from entering WA who are not vaccinated, yet WA has the lowest vaccination rate in the country - is he going to now start deporting WAustralians who have not been vaccinated.

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Exactly, good question. What about WA returning citizens?

…apparently being vaccinated doesn’t stop the spread, it just prevents severe illness.

According to my calculations, using published figures for infection rates and vaccine efficacy, we need 83% of the whole population to prevent spread for delta. But lower figures will work provided some social interaction restrictions are used. These might include, for example, widespread mask use, and requiring proof of vaccination for high risk activities, such as sporting venues, night clubs, church services etc.

Obviously a major requirement is for vaccines to be approved and used for children.

No vaccine is 100% effective at preventing infection, and for respiratory viruses, they can establish a significant foothold in the respiratory system and thus start spreading before the immune response ramps up.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW;[URL="tel:3102896"

3102896[/URL]] No vaccine is 100% effective at preventing infection, and for respiratory viruses, they can establish a significant foothold in the respiratory system and thus start spreading before the immune response ramps up.

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Yes exactly, and so forgive me but you seem to have contradicted yourself - if no vaccine is 100% effective - how, as you also say above, is 83% of population being vaccinated going to prevent covid spread?