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29th March 2020, 08:45 PM
4bee

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

As I am over seventy, I'm supposed to stay at home. However, I can see a problem (not very soon, I'm right until just after Easter). My nearest neighbour is over 4km away, and he has no landline and mobile phones mostly don't work there (has to go up the hill to the shearing shed to make a call).

It is 6km to the village - I've got a nephew there, but he doesn't have a four wheel drive and is supposed to be isolating because of his health. It is 60km into town. I have a friend there who has offered to run errands for me - but he has his father and both his parents in law living with him (plus four kids) and they are all older and sicker than me, so I don't want to get him to run any risks for me.

And, even if I do get someone to do the trip to town for me, how do I pay them (I don't do internet banking). And how do I get my prescriptions in to the chemist? And this is not going to help me get my flu shot if it is available by then.

I live alone, but then I have done so for twenty years, so that doesn't worry me. And the phone and internet work here, although the mobile is a bit dodgy.

Can you not BSB bank it to their account?

Our local pharmacy delivers to homes up to 5miles radius, maybe your might as well if they are in the Village.
29th March 2020, 08:51 PM
101RRS

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Originally Posted by incisor

in Australia this percentage is 6.56% at the moment.

and Australia coronavirus information and stats

I am sure how you come up with 6.56% - your own link currently shows 3940 cases and 16 deaths - that is .402% death rate.

Garry
29th March 2020, 09:10 PM
incisor

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

I am sure how you come up with 6.56% - your own link currently shows 3940 cases and 16 deaths - that is .402% death rate.

Garry

really, have another read... i am talking about recovery stats not infected stats...
29th March 2020, 09:31 PM
ozscott

It won't be 6.5% of those actually infected who die. Nothing like that thankfully. I don't see a great statistical value in death rate versus confirmed recovery at this early stage Death rate versus total cases recovered in a few months time will be more valuable. M2CW. It is not the case that if infected you have a 6.5% chance of not recovering. The death rate of even the elderly infected is not that high.

Cheers
29th March 2020, 09:38 PM
incisor

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Originally Posted by ozscott

It won't be 6.5% of those actually infected who die. Nothing like that thankfully. I don't see a great statistical value in death rate versus confirmed recovery at this early stage Death rate versus total cases recovered in a few months time will be more valuable. M2CW. It is not the case that if infected you have a 6.5% chance of not recovering. The death rate of even the elderly infected is not that high.

Cheers

i'm not saying it is anything other than what it is, the figures speak for themselves

how you want to interpret it is up to you
29th March 2020, 09:52 PM
101RRS

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Originally Posted by incisor

really, have another read... i am talking about recovery stats not infected stats...

Ok misunderstood but you did say in your original post

"where there has been a resolution to a confirmed covid19 infection, 18% have passed away....

in Australia this percentage is 6.56% at the moment."

So I thought that after you indicated 18% had passed away in the world then you were indicating that 6.56% had passed away in Aust but I guess you were indicating 6.56% had recovered.
29th March 2020, 09:56 PM
Pickles2

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Originally Posted by incisor

i'm not fixated on anything other than getting accurate information so i can make informed decisions about my families welfare and i have no interest in dismissing evidence because it doesn't look pretty..

where there has been a resolution to a confirmed covid19 infection, 18% have passed away....

in Australia this percentage is 6.56% at the moment.

that is the stat i am most interested in watching because it shows just how effective / ineffective treatment is at this time IMHO

the stats are from Coronavirus Update (Live): 672,027 Cases and 31,191 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Outbreak - Worldometer

and Australia coronavirus information and stats

how many end up getting the virus is another issue all together me thinks....

I'm with you 100%.
People keep trying to put their own spin on it,....yep, even on this forum.
Infections are infections,....those figures do not lie.
The major message from me is, and cut out all the other crap is,........STAY AT HOME,....SEE NO-ONE,....STAY AWAY , ISOLATE.
Forget all the other crap, just ISOLATE, stay at home,......if ya do that, the virus cannot get to you,....FACT,.......
So that's what we're doing, staying at home, logged on to the Woolies home delivery,.....absolute crap way to live, but the best way for us to survive,.....well that's what we think.
People crap on about what ScoMo & his team are saying, but the major EASY message from the team, health experts, State Premiers is STAY AT HOME, but idiiots are still saying, why can't we do this, the Govt is not telling us etc etc........utter crap,.....just STAY AT HOME,.
Pickles.
29th March 2020, 11:03 PM
ChookD2

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Ok misunderstood but you did say in your original post

"where there has been a resolution to a confirmed covid19 infection, 18% have passed away....

in Australia this percentage is 6.56% at the moment."

So I thought that after you indicated 18% had passed away in the world then you were indicating that 6.56% had passed away in Aust but I guess you were indicating 6.56% had recovered.

This is not the way I read it and I don't believe it is the way Inc intended it to be read. I'll break it down.

There is x number infected (total) from that numer there is one of two outcomes, recovery and death. Yes it sounds a bit morbid.

Inc is indicating that from all the cases that have had an outcome then 6.56% have died. And on the global figures from the total infected, those that have had an outcome, the death rate is 18%.

As this progresses and more people recover then these percentages will adjust down (hopefully) but as I said every case of infection has one of two outcomes. If you look at the percentage of deaths to infections, then yes this will always be a lower figure. However, many of those currently infected have not had their outcome yet.

Unfortunately there is still no clear idea (medically) what a recovery will be like in the long term. There is some speculation that many will have some sort of lung or respiratory issues for the remainder of their lives.
29th March 2020, 11:46 PM
Eevo

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Originally Posted by ChookD2

This is not the way I read it and I don't believe it is the way Inc intended it to be read. I'll break it down.

There is x number infected (total) from that numer there is one of two outcomes, recovery and death. Yes it sounds a bit morbid.

Inc is indicating that from all the cases that have had an outcome then 6.56% have died. And on the global figures from the total infected, those that have had an outcome, the death rate is 18%.

As this progresses and more people recover then these percentages will adjust down (hopefully) but as I said every case of infection has one of two outcomes. If you look at the percentage of deaths to infections, then yes this will always be a lower figure. However, many of those currently infected have not had their outcome yet.

Unfortunately there is still no clear idea (medically) what a recovery will be like in the long term. There is some speculation that many will have some sort of lung or respiratory issues for the remainder of their lives.

both are valid ways of reading the figures.
30th March 2020, 12:18 AM
101RRS

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Originally Posted by ChookD2

This is not the way I read it and I don't believe it is the way Inc intended it to be read. I'll break it down.

There is x number infected (total) from that numer there is one of two outcomes, recovery and death. Yes it sounds a bit morbid.

Inc is indicating that from all the cases that have had an outcome then 6.56% have died. And on the global figures from the total infected, those that have had an outcome, the death rate is 18%.

As this progresses and more people recover then these percentages will adjust down (hopefully) but as I said every case of infection has one of two outcomes. If you look at the percentage of deaths to infections, then yes this will always be a lower figure. However, many of those currently infected have not had their outcome yet.

Unfortunately there is still no clear idea (medically) what a recovery will be like in the long term. There is some speculation that many will have some sort of lung or respiratory issues for the remainder of their lives.

No big deal - as I have already indicated I misunderstood what Inc said and explained why I misunderstood.

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