Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by Saitch

Nothing!
However, NSW and Victoria have always had a nonsensical, superiority complex since Federation.
Just look at the Sydney v Melbourne competition and if you can't see that, then there's not much hope.

And Qld and WA an inferiority complex since Federation.

And victorians say they are in the nanny state
From what people are saying in this thread it sounds like they need a few more nannies

Australia is a federation of states which individually have jurisdiction over many things, policing, health and education among them. Thats our constitution, these divisions have always been there but has not often been publicised, the media doesn't care about the disorganised rabble that is the vehicle registration schemes across Australia.
Some of the reaction is driven by different political situations in different states, also differing medical boards advising different states and another advisory group at the federal level.

I think the PM has done a pretty good job of herding the cats and moving the country forward where a more authoritarian approach could have been a much unhappier situation.

With regard to the outbreak in Victoria, it is no worse in its rate of expansion that the outbreak in Tassie around the hospital in the north west (where the nurses were blamed for having a party) or the mess after the cruise ship in NSW.

Queensland, WA and the other states only need to have an administrative slip up and they will also experience local outbreaks. Closed borders will do nothing to stop this, despite the political point scoring.
The Victorian outbreak has an added disadvantage in that people are fatigued by the restrictions and the actual number of cases is small so it is easy for people to rationalise that there is no way that they could be exposed. I'm sure that those large family gatherings did not plan to get the virus. I read today that one of the hotel outbreaks was spread by staff at a hotel sharing a cigarette lighter, that sort of slip up is really easy to see in hindsight but incredibly difficult to foresee in advance.

It is interesting that Andrews for all his hard line rules and talk has not found a way to enforce do not leave home rules in affected local areas. It is either too hard or not yet considered necessary.



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Tote

Originally Posted by Saitch

As it does to the opening of recently discovered tombs in Egypt! I reckon there's more chance of a 'Pharaoh's Curse' scenario i.e. an alien virus, secreted away in 2500 B.C., being released, than 5G radiation.

Ooh, another conspiracy theory, perhaps?

- Have'nt heard the Alien Virus Theory, (which suggests 'alien' pyramid-builders...) only poisons and fungi / mould spores...

The allegation is, c. 60GHz affects the O2 molecule's ability to bind with haemoglobin, making it less available. How MUCH RF energy is required is another matter. However, O2 absorbs 60Ghz limiting it's (5G) range even more.

Telecoms can only blame themselves for the growth in Conspiracy Theories, as they've a history of vehemently denying ANY possibility of harm from phones, nor have they 'proved' that 4G and now 5G *IS* harmless to humans..
If it took over 20 years for epdemiologists/PTB to notice damage from cigarette smoking, (and decades longer to act decisively) how long would it take and more importantly, what action would result if such a link became known?

Anyway, the "Experts" rarely agree.... Experts Revive Debate Over Cellphones and Cancer. What do brain surgeons (...) - Asociacion Vallisoletana de Afectad@s por las Antenas de Telecomunicaciones - AVAATE

Given that you're in Geraldton how would you know what Victorians are doing?

I do live in reginal WA But that doesn't mean that I am restricted from reading newspapers, listening to the radio, watching TV or looking at newsfeeds.
I also didn't say that ALL Victorians were not taking this virus seriously, I did however say that there are many in your State are being careless/unthoughtful otherwise how do YOU explain why the rest of Australia is doing Much better at containing this virus than VIC is??

[QUOTE=superquag;3011721]- Have'nt heard the Alien Virus Theory, (which suggests 'alien' pyramid-builders...) only poisons and fungi /

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Sorry, Superquag, I made that 'Theory' up myself and only put it up as conjecture. I was trying to keep to the context of this thread.

Originally Posted by trout1105

I do live in reginal WA But that doesn't mean that I am restricted from reading newspapers, listening to the radio, watching TV or looking at newsfeeds.
I also didn't say that ALL Victorians were not taking this virus seriously, I did however say that there are many in your State are being careless/unthoughtful otherwise how do YOU explain why the rest of Australia is doing Much better at containing this virus than VIC is??

I really do think there's a lot of luck in there too.
NSW and Vic have had the bulk of OS returning infections so it was going to get out into the community, NSW have had really odd things like the Shoalhaven infection last week, so there is low levels of community transmission still occurring, NSW just didn't have a few large family gatherings (25+?) occurring with someone infected to kick things off again.

Re WA et al dividing their States into regions with borders.... the question was posed:- how many LIVES were saved by this? - or should it be INFECTIONS avoided ?

Hard borders and quarantines have always worked, that is quarantine the SICK. - Leicester and smallpox: The Leicester method | Medical History | Cambridge Core