Corona Virus

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Originally Posted by superquag

Why mention Sepsis ? - Well, COVID can kill in a similar fashion,

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Indeed why mention it? COVID can and has killed in a number of different ways, only some of which have been reliably characterised and only one which looks like sepsis. The medical profession is still trying to come to terms with some of the short term and potentially lifetime damage it causes in order to figure out how to treat it.

It’s no joke and this is not “just the flu”. “The flu” does not cause inflammation of the endothelium resulting in the lining of your veins shredding your blood cells. Just one of the fun ways to die due to COVID. They understand this one as it’s similar to a graft vs host reaction after a stem cell transplant. It doesn’t respond to the same treatment though.

Don’t try and underplay it or wash it away as a conspiracy. There are a number of reasons for it being fatal, only some of which are understood enough to treat.

Sepsis is not highly infectious and does not spread rapidly - that is the key difference. Covid-19 is, as far as I can determine, more infectious than any serious disease except measles, and together with its relatively long incubation period this means that unchecked it spreads like wildfire. And it has a CFR at least ten times* that of Flu, has no effective treatment, and at least in some cases (how many?)has long term illness.

These are the reasons it is important.

*If we look at Australian cases which are concluded, that is, either recovered or died, currently the CFR is around 3%. Seasonal Flu is about 0.1%

This thread is a hoot. People putting up a post based on a media report, being howled down by people using differing information from, one would have to assume, a different media report.

Some on here, who appear to be very well educated, sprout stuff without alluding to any reliable source.

Is there such a thing as a 'Reliable Source'?

AULRO cures the world's ills![biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]

p.s. who is Mike Carlton?

You forget it is a forum not a medical paper - sources are not necessary as all posts are nothing more than the expression of opinions. [thumbsupbig]

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

You forget it is a forum not a medical paper - sources are not necessary as all posts are nothing more than the expression of opinions. [thumbsupbig]

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except when mick posts. he only post "facts"

I get my facts from here:

DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Corona virus jokes

Despite how grim things are, the Brits can still find a funny side.

On a good news front - Victoria has now had 4 days this week with no new cases and 6 days with no deaths. Only 2 people remain in hospital but with no one in ICU.

With around 20,000 tests being done a day this a great result.

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Originally Posted by incisor

really...

nsw created 1/10th of the jobs that qld created over the last few months

qld is full of nsw / victorians driving endlessly around in circles because they don't want to head back down south till they get themselves sorted like qld

caravan parks on the coast are turning back 20 or 30 unhappy campers a day on average according to the stats

almost every country town i passed through recently, that was interested in accommodating tourists / travelers, was doing very well for themselves, with caravan parks and free camps near those towns nearly always heavily occupied

some towns simply weren't interested and nothing was open and the endless stream of travelers continued on, after they did a walk around and found nothing open.

i sat in the main street of one town eating a burger and chips i obtained from a local pub, but couldn't eat there, and watched 10 or 20 vehicles, most with with vans stop, have a look around and either stop at the bakery and leave empty handed because they had no eftpos or simply walk the street and then move on to the next town by the looks of it.

had me shaking my head wondering what the hell was going on to be frank....

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But they are all retirees and that is what they do at this time of year. [emoji23]

Business for the most part has ramped right back up here.
We're employing new staff, we had a new bloke start last week in Ballina as our workload is crazy, all overtime restrictions were revoked at the beginning of the month across all five branches here in NSW and the projects/installation side of the business is pretty much back up to full load.
My sister's partner works for a big John Deere dealer in the bush and they can't keep up with equipment and spares sales thanks to the excellent season most of NSW has had across winter.
The shopping centres I do work for are also filling vacant tennancies, often tennancies that have been vacant for years.
We are picking up quite a bit of the mech services work in these, I've done probably four times the number of site inspections in the last two months than I've done in the previous 2.5 years I've been here in northern NSW, so retail is picking right up.
It's got to the point that my service manager has told our engineers and project managers to stop ringing me untill we get more staff on the ground [emoji23]

Our Brisbane branch is flat out too, and I think they need at least one more staff member.

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Originally Posted by rick130

But they are all retirees and that is what they do at this time of year. [emoji23]

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many that i saw were younger than me so they must be self funded if they are [bigwhistle][biggrin][biggrin][biggrin][biggrin][biggrin]

invasion day 2020 .....

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Originally Posted by incisor

qld is full of nsw / victorians driving endlessly around in circles because they don't want to head back down south till they get themselves sorted like qld

caravan parks on the coast are turning back 20 or 30 unhappy campers a day on average according to the stats

almost every country town i passed through recently, that was interested in accommodating tourists / travelers, was doing very well for themselves, with caravan parks and free camps near those towns nearly always heavily occupied

some towns simply weren't interested and nothing was open and the endless stream of travelers continued on, after they did a walk around and found nothing open.

i sat in the main street of one town eating a burger and chips i obtained from a local pub, but couldn't eat there, and watched 10 or 20 vehicles, most with with vans stop, have a look around and either stop at the bakery and leave empty handed because they had no eftpos or simply walk the street and then move on to the next town by the looks of it.

had me shaking my head wondering what the hell was going on to be frank....

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I also wonder what's going on - if there are any Victorian retirees currently wandering around Queensland that would mean that they've been there since at least the start of August. Unless the border actually is porous?