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are they?
20 cases and the testing system falls apart.
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Originally Posted by bob10
are they?
20 cases and the testing system falls apart.
So, the white anting begins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eevo
Consumer confidence rises for the 11th week.
Confidence rises for 11th straight week amid signs of jobs market recovery
It seems rarely a day goes by where we don't learn something new about COVID. Here is some good news about Virus immunity.
‘Really good news’ on virus immunity
While the world was wrapped up in the promising news of Moderna’s vaccine, my colleague Apoorva Mandavilli, who covers science for The Times, sent out a cryptic tweet that immediately piqued my interest.
This afternoon, Apoorva delivered: According to new research, immunity to the coronavirus may last years, perhaps even decades.
That’s good news because some experts worried that resistance to the virus could be fleeting, and it’s potentially great news for our ability to keep the virus under control with vaccines.
For months, reports of waning antibody levels led scientists to fear that resistance to the virus may be short lived. But researchers from the La Jolla Institute for Immunology who led the study looked at the body’s immune response in 185 patients, ages 19 to 81, who had recovered from the virus.
They tracked antibodies, but also B cells that can make more antibodies, and two types of T cells that kill other infected cells. The researchers also took blood samples from 38 people over many months.
The team found that antibodies stuck around, declining modestly six to eight months after infection, although the amount varied widely among the participants. T cells showed only a slight, slow decay in the body, while B cells actually grew in number. Researchers extrapolated from the slow level of decline over eight months, and concluded that people would most likely be protected for a few years. (How long, exactly, is still hard to predict.)
“This is really good news,” Apoorva told me. “Because if natural infection is producing such a strong immune response, a vaccine certainly will, because vaccines generally tend to produce stronger, more durable immune responses than natural infections.”
Experts also initially worried that resistance to the coronavirus might be similar to the flu, which would require people to be vaccinated every year. That would have created a logistical nightmare: The entire world would have to be vaccinated regularly just to keep the pandemic under control. But this research implies that may not be the case.
“It suggests we may have some breathing room, and that may help every country get back on its feet, in terms of the economy and keeping its population safe,” Apoorva said. “It also means that we may actually be able to contain this pandemic a little sooner than we had worried.”
They really should be wearing masks.Quote:
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Couple of comments: when the outbreak occurred in Melbourne the response nationally was that we were guilty of a moral failure. The specialists who said that there was a large element of bad luck and that it was possible for this to occur in other States seem to have been ignored. What's surprising here is how the SA authorities appear to have learnt nothing from what happened in Victoria. Even a day ago the "experts" in SA were saying SA was in a much better position than Vic was - the obvious riposte is that they're obviously not because they've allowed this to happen at all.
When the outbreak occurred in Melbourne the head of the AMA in SA went into print lambasting Victoria, saying "Vics put us all at risk". Very helpful and sympathetic. So, his comments in this article now have more than a little poignancy:
AMA backs push to keep SA border closed after Victoria '''dropped the ball''' on coronavirus - ABC News
I guess all those South Australians living in Vic who fled to SA will now be coming back?
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Uncle Joe knew a thing or two, "don't you worry about that"
NB. I presume we are not talking about Joe Stalin, also referred to as "Uncle Joe"? Sash would/may have known him.[bigrolf]
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I bet their houses have been looted or set on fire & they will have bugger all to go back to.
If they had sold up, to buy it back would cost them double nay triple the price they flogged it for going by the greed that appears to be going on lately with everything. Estate Agents are probably on the biggest "On the make" list.
Lots of old **** was spouted by just about everyone then, but **** happens. Human nature??
We still have a very long road to travel with this thing & anyone who thinks otherwise needs their head examined once they extract it from the sand from whence it was buried.
Already Toilet Paper has disappeared from WW shelves, not sure about other stuff or other venues yet despite claims it was going to be rationed again. People do have a very short memory.
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I sincerely hope that the SA authorities do get it under control because I wouldn't wish on anyone what we went through.
There were more articles in The Age today referring to how ****ed-off Victorians are at the rest of the country.
Also this:
Coronavirus: South Australia outbreak prompts concerns about border patchwork
I suspect that in the future Australia is going to look more like the UK or Canada than what it did until this year.