Too much politics played , all that does is take the focus off the problem and highlight the massive egos involved. Some how we seem to muddle through. Most of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4bee
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Too much politics played , all that does is take the focus off the problem and highlight the massive egos involved. Some how we seem to muddle through. Most of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4bee
Agreed, but Muddlin' is not an option.Quote:
Originally Posted by bob10
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It's amazing, isn't it. Mankind has muddled through since the beginning of time. If we look at some major time lines in history, say, WW1, The great depression, WW2, the Cold war, to name just a few, it's difficult to grasp in each instance whether or not a higher intelligence is actually at work at all. And yet the World muddled through, to the next dillemma. I believe this is what will happen here, we will muddle through, the usual suspects will claim ownership of a positive outcome, while the real owners , those who put in the hard yards [ think health workers etc] will shake their heads and merge back into the shadows , to carry on their good work. My fervent wish is that those among us who really count , the health workers, police, emergency workers , military, carers, et al, don't lose heart . And that Politicians get a heart.
I wonder to what extent that aerosol transmission has always been there and only now we are discovering it as we are controlling the travel of the virus most of the time and becoming aware of aerosol transmission when all other vectors have been exhausted. For instance there is no way of knowing what percentage of cases in the crossroads hotel or Victorian outbreaks were aerosol transmission. There is definitely a missing piece when it comes to transmission vectors as if the virus was as transmissible in all circumstances as we are led to believe then the cases where quarantine workers were infected in Perth and Melbourne would have led to super-spreading events, which so far they don't appear to have done.
Fresh air and sunshine must have something to do with it as well.
Regards,
Tote
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Both have a great deal to do with this Tote. Just that the clowns "managing" this have only just got to thinking about it by process of elimination. (Aw boss, what do we do next?)
What did you do in the Army? You put out those blankets to air & receive a dose of UV & open up the Barracks Room regularly, weather permitting, is what or should have been. As you know a Section of blokes can make a whole heap of trouble by Coughing, sneezing & lets not forget fartin', overnight. The latter has not yet been put forward as C-19 connected but who knows, maybe it will be?
Sunshine (UV) has always been accepted as a defence against bugs in cahoots with Fresh air circulation, not RE-circulation, but that can also help to get it to the hidden areas & internal corners of a building. Try the simple things first & then proceed from there, IMHO.
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And that Politicians get a heart.
One needs to be found before that can happen.
Meanwhile our hearts are broken while our " leaders" count coup, instead of leading.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4bee
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Yep, I see Andrews hasn't yet accepted the blame for 800 odd Victorians dying before Xmas.
The olde "Buck stops with me as Leader" wears a bit thin after a while but he doesn't proceed past that to....... "unless the **** hits the fan".
I'm sure he believes it will just fade away.
what do South Australians have against Dan Andrews?
he's the same as your premier.
We have an old house built in 1860 with field stone walls with lime plaster on them. Somewhere in my travels I have heard a story that in WW1 a study was done on the survival rates in military hospitals where the buildings had plaster walls Vs those that had wooden walls, the plaster walled wards had a significantly better survival rate. I'll try and find a reference to the study and update.Quote:
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Regards,
Tote
Yeah that would be an interesting read when you can did it up.Quote:
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EDIT.
Just had a thoughty. Stone/brick & plastered walls would not be as draughty as Timber construction. The huts the Brits used were timber construction & while I have nothing firm to go on they always appeared very lightweight & draughty to me.
Although the Huts at Woodside were timber framed with Corro sheeting cladding with Plasterboard lining, but also had from memory, 1x openable window per Bed space so cross ventilation was good.
I doubt they were insulated, ceilings or Walls, as they were built pre WW2
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