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    i dont know about a magic formula.
    i just know the economic cost wasnt worth it, and i;m lucky enough not to be impacted.


    and all for what end? unless we keep our borders closed for what im guessing is several years, we cant keep it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RHS58 View Post
    But if I crash my car, and am severely injured or die, I’m not going to pass on my injuries or worse to my family or contacts.
    your thinking along the wrong lines.


    we could do a lot more to reduce the road toll (which kills more), but we dont. why not?

    all im saying is the response to corona has been out of proportion to other deadly issues in our society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    i just know the economic cost wasnt worth it, and i;m lucky enough not to be impacted.
    You will be impacted once they start trying to claw all the money back.

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    You are, I think, looking at things the wrong way in comparing to the road toll. The major difference is that action to limit the death toll from covid-19 is temporary. Action to limit road toll is ongoing. We could drop the road toll by around 50%, for example, by taking effective action against alcohol. But it would have to be permanent.

    And it is not correct to say that the disease is less deadly than roads - it is in Australia, but that is because we are taking effective action. In the USA, in less than three months, the USA has manage about twice their annual number of road deaths (80,000 vs 38,000). So your example is flawed.

    It is like those who claim that expenditure on Y2K was a waste because not much happened - the reason not much happened is because a lot of people spent a lot of effort and money to make sure it did not. (And as an aside, apparently a lot of issues currently arising in the US with government systems for relief come from ancient Cobol systems the are now being used in ways that were never envisioned - and most Cobol programmers are retired!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
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    all im saying is the response to corona has been out of proportion to other deadly issues in our society.
    You do realise don't you that the reason you appear to believe that is because the response has done the job it was intended to do.

    In the same way that some people mistakenly believe that we don't need vaccines because very few people die from measles now and some people think the precautions for Y2K were unnecessary. It only seems that way because the precautions or preventative measures were both necessary and effective.

    Those who understand how exponential growth works and who actually know something about epidemiology and people who understand the differences between this issue and other problems have always known that if their precautions were appropriate that a lot of people would label them an overreaction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    You will be impacted once they start trying to claw all the money back.
    who is they?
    i pay enough tax as it is.
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    People who compare this to the road toll or the flu or suicides are simply demonstrating that they don't understand the differences between those issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    You are, I think, looking at things the wrong way in comparing to the road toll. The major difference is that action to limit the death toll from covid-19 is temporary. Action to limit road toll is ongoing. We could drop the road toll by around 50%, for example, by taking effective action against alcohol. But it would have to be permanent.

    And it is not correct to say that the disease is less deadly than roads - it is in Australia, but that is because we are taking effective action. In the USA, in less than three months, the USA has manage about twice their annual number of road deaths (80,000 vs 38,000). So your example is flawed.

    It is like those who claim that expenditure on Y2K was a waste because not much happened - the reason not much happened is because a lot of people spent a lot of effort and money to make sure it did not. (And as an aside, apparently a lot of issues currently arising in the US with government systems for relief come from ancient Cobol systems the are now being used in ways that were never envisioned - and most Cobol programmers are retired!)
    im heading to bed. let me think it over and get back to you tomorrow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    i pay enough tax as it is.
    Do you think THEY care?

    THEY are the ones that put the taxes up,and anything else They can think of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    most of the dead wernt employed in the first place.

    and million out of work vs 98 dead.

    not a good ratio
    The erudite Brookings Institute in the US has confirmed a relationship between successful disease minimisation and economic harm minimisation.

    Reported here at the end:

    Australia, NZ have '''world'''s best''' COVID health and economic response

    The two aspects of this crisis are related in outcome, but not diametrically.

    cheers, DL

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