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    Teddy Sheean VC at last

    World War II hero Teddy Sheean to posthumously receive Victoria Cross

    Dr Nelson said Teddy Sheean's story was inspiring.
    "I would say to all Australians as we live through the most significant adversity in our lifetimes, approaching the 75th anniversary of the Second World War, let Teddy Sheean inspire us to be a people that are selfless, caring and brave," he said.
    Previous attempts at having Sheean awarded a VC have been unsuccessful, with a 2013 inquiry finding Sheean's actions "did not reach the particularly high standard required for recommendation of a VC", and the United Kingdom's Ministry of Defence refusing to consider him for the accolade in 2017.
    In May this year, Defence Minister Linda Reynolds said a review held in 2019 by the Defence Honours and Awards Tribunal had found "no new evidence that might support reconsideration of the valour inquiries recommendation".


    World War II hero Teddy Sheean to posthumously receive Victoria Cross - ABC News

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    This is great news BUT lets not jump the gun just yet - while the news reports are that he is to receive the posthumous award, it is at this stage is only a recommendation - noting that the rules still exist the prevent the retrospective award of such awards. So lets hope it goes through and the VC is awarded.

    Despite quite a number of heroic acts, worthy of the award of the VC, since the creation of the RAN, not one of these acts has gained the appropriate VC recognition they deserve, so lets hope this all happens and some of the other acts also gain recognition in the future.

    For some reason acts of heroism by the RAN do not seem to have gained recognition of the other services. The RAN has long recognised this wrong doing and is part of the reason that more and more ship's have been named after these heros as a means of giving recognition of their deeds where the those in authority have failed to do so. Lets also hop that with this, the rules related to retrospective awards are also changed.

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    Good that it is said new evidence has been uncovered, including Japanese military records, which confirm details of what happened and justify the long overdue award.

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    "bout bloody time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    This is great news BUT lets not jump the gun just yet - while the news reports are that he is to receive the posthumous award, it is at this stage is only a recommendation - noting that the rules still exist the prevent the retrospective award of such awards. So lets hope it goes through and the VC is awarded.

    Despite quite a number of heroic acts, worthy of the award of the VC, since the creation of the RAN, not one of these acts has gained the appropriate VC recognition they deserve, so lets hope this all happens and some of the other acts also gain recognition in the future.

    For some reason acts of heroism by the RAN do not seem to have gained recognition of the other services. The RAN has long recognised this wrong doing and is part of the reason that more and more ship's have been named after these heros as a means of giving recognition of their deeds where the those in authority have failed to do so. Lets also hop that with this, the rules related to retrospective awards are also changed.

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    What a Selfless Guy,eh? This has been going on for ages but I'm glad to see he has got his just Recognition of his Bravery. It won't do Teddy any good or get him a good table in a Restaurant but I think he would be pleased at last. A lot of C-19 shirkers could take this example to heart. Or maybe they won't.

    When I read that Scomo was due to make an important announcement I immediately thought "Hello we've been attacked by China" but this was better news.

    I also thank you Teddy Sheehan. The lad was only 18 years of age on enlistment. From the Japanese reports of the action it apparently also recorded how much ammo was left on the planes. That is a bit weird.

    Not enough to continue strafing the crew already in the sea so his action may have saved more lives while they were concentrating their fire on Teddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    If the Governor General knocked this one back the Boston Tea Party would look like a picnic. His Excellence David H will swiftly do as instructed or start a revolution or at least brown eyes if he goes near any former navy boys or girls
    This apparently goes to the Queen as it will probably be the old VC not the new one. Edit - I see they have recommended the new VC - dont see how as it was not in place back in 1942 but doesn't matter a VC is a VC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    This apparently goes to the Queen as it will probably be the old VC not the new one.
    Her Maj will approve of our Teddy. The refusal would start a OFF with her head chant . She is a smart old girl I think


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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Her Maj will approve of our Teddy. The refusal would start a OFF with her head chant . She is a smart old girl I think


    This quotation sticks in my craw as if Gallantry, Bravery & Valor only pertain to the Army & RAAF.

    While Mr Sheean may seem deserving on the face of it, Professor of History at the University of Tasmania, Stefan Petrow, said of Australia's 100 VC recipients, not a single one was from the Navy, which does not weigh in his favour.

    Nor is it fair Prof, we were involved in a World War with all services taking part. What a silly bloody comment you made.

    Remember Cpl Mark Donaldson, Cpl Ben Roberts-Smith, Cpl Daniel Keighran, Cpl Cameron Stewart Baird?


    In my opinion what did they do that Sheehan didn't, except their actions were land based & they had backup. It took Sheehan to have big balls like the above mentioned but seemingly open to unfriendly fire & he didn't **** off when the going got tough. Not saying the Army blokes did but it was a very exposed & different warfare. Hell, I dive for cover when I hear a .22 Short go off 20 km away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    This quotation sticks in my craw as if Gallantry, Bravery & Valor only pertain to the Army & RAAF.




    Nor is it fair Prof, we were involved in a World War with all services taking part. What a silly bloody comment you made.
    Cheers. The hypocrisy has been very well discussed from when I was a 15 year old The truth might be that most heroes are not seen and recorded. I know a few whom we still are not allowed to talk about Every Anzac day I admit I partake in a bit to much listening to several whom are normally very quiet about what happened. I doubt I can recall a year we haven't raised a glass to our dead mates and the many who died before them.

    Not going to harp on the graves of the people whom stopped this in the past they hung themselves in shame.

    The anger felt when we toasted Ordinary Seamen Teddy Sheean will be joy now.

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