Thread: Shoring up our fuel supply

This is an interesting issue for us. I am not sure whether we should be stockpiling our reserves as just crude oil and refining it here as needed - noting it would not need refining until needed which is a costly exercise to keep non profit making refineries operational. The alternative is to stockpile the fuels needed - petrol, diesel, lubricating oil with no dedicated refineries needed.

There are argument for and against in both options, but what is common we need to increase our onshore stockpiles and that importing either the crude or refined fuels and lubricants are just as problematic as each other, as the logistic chain from overseas is just as vulnerable.

Of course if we found more oil reserves so that we were self sufficient then things may be different but that is not going to happen.

Maybe we should stop all gas exports and change as a nation to having internal combustion engines (including trucks) running on gas and using our oil reserves for lubricants, strategic petrol and diesel - but then our oil is not good for producing heavier oils.

Whatever, the one thing we do need to do is increase out strategic reserves of fuel and lubricants but how we do this is the question.

Garry

There is another and we will be a world class exporter of it soon I suspect

So long as the fuel company's are not going to be like the car industry & ping off after the money grab.

Originally Posted by 1950landy

So long as the fuel company's are not going to be like the car industry & ping off after the money grab.

They will cause governments are stupid and it's not their money. Look at the cash splash going on now which did not stop Quantas switching to a low wage Chinese Party owned baggage co called Swissports did it?

Swissports is already on welfare in Tas and trying to jeep it that way as long as they can. China Air is getting millions to fly many empty charter flights too..eg for lobster which is not being fished in volume atm due to low prices.

Meanwhile our useless Govt can't manage to repatriate Aussies from OS.

Printing money is manna for useless pollies who won't have to live with the consequences...they'll be okay by then on fat pensions etc😐

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Would we pay an extra 1.1 cents a litre for fuel to fund securing the future of our four fuel refineries and building fuel storage?
I would.

Federal government open to making Australian motorists pay to keep fuel refineries open | Business | The Guardian

No we shouldn't.

Oil refineries are commercial businesses.

We pay enough or are gouged enough for the price of fuel.

Why should we pay out of our pockets again, when the whole idea is for military purposes , not for us the plebians.

It is not primarily for military purposes - it is because a break in the fuel supply pipeline would have the nation crippled in about a month.

Double post

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

No we shouldn't.

Oil refineries are commercial businesses.

We pay enough or are gouged enough for the price of fuel.

Why should we pay out of our pockets again, when the whole idea is for military purposes , not for us the plebians.

Agree 100%. In NSW in 1985 they introduced an ‘initiative’ called 3x3 whereby we were supposed to pay 3 cents a liter extra for 3 years to go toward road upgrade programs predominantly in the bush. Big blue signs everywhere in the bush with 3x3 on them. I don’t believe this tax was ever removed and just added to the apparent multitude of other taxes that make up what you pay at the bowser!