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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    A Super Moggy, that cat.

    Watching a doco on the life of the queen tonight & said to 'er indoors "Wouldn't it be a different world today if the Chinese played Cricket & had a Queen the likes of "Lizzie" (I can call her that 'cos Ive known her a long time, not to mention her Dad & Mum & Gran come to that.) I doubt a many here can say that.

    The Chinese seem to still spout the same dialogue that they did in '57 about losing face, respect etc. Well, their thinking must have been the same as now for it to finish up in the script 63 years ago. "Nothing to see here, move along."
    Sorry old mate but you still don't get it. Set the scene. The Chinese government forces are in disarray, on one side of the Yangtse, barely holding on. The 'Peoples Liberation Army 'are massing on the other side, their leaders aware one more big push would give them victory. So, a crossing of the Yangtse is planned. The only fly in the ointment is the foreign Naval vessels which could disrupt a crossing. The planned crossing is not organised yet, so the PLA give the foreign ships until April 12 to leave the river.

    The plan is held up so , because of that and diplomatic moves by GB and the USA, the date is pushed out to April 15. Then on April 18, it is pushed out to April 21. Due to the fog of war, some PLA commanders are not made aware of the new date, April 21. Amethyst comes up the river on April 20, the PLA Commander in that part of the river thinks she is breaking the curfew, and orders her to be fired on. The rest is history. The fog of War, not some inherent Chinese foible. Not sticking up for the Chinese, one of the first rules of war is know your enemy. Australia seems to have failed miserably in that regard. Cheers.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Sorry old mate but you still don't get it. Set the scene. The Chinese government forces are in disarray, on one side of the Yangtse, barely holding on. The 'Peoples Liberation Army 'are massing on the other side, their leaders aware one more big push would give them victory. So, a crossing of the Yangtse is planned. The only fly in the ointment is the foreign Naval vessels which could disrupt a crossing. The planned crossing is not organised yet, so the PLA give the foreign ships until April 12 to leave the river.

    The plan is held up so , because of that and diplomatic moves by GB and the USA, the date is pushed out to April 15. Then on April 18, it is pushed out to April 21. Due to the fog of war, some PLA commanders are not made aware of the new date, April 21. Amethyst comes up the river on April 20, the PLA Commander in that part of the river thinks she is breaking the curfew, and orders her to be fired on. The rest is history. The fog of War, not some inherent Chinese foible. Not sticking up for the Chinese, one of the first rules of war is know your enemy. Australia seems to have failed miserably in that regard. Cheers.

    Fairy nuff.
    That makes a lot more sense now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    Fairy nuff.
    That makes a lot more sense now.
    Luv yur work. Cheers.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Able Seaman Simon, RN ships cat.

    Simon was found wandering the dockyards of Hong Kong in March 1948 by 17 year-old Ordinary Seaman George Hickinbottom, a member of the crew of the British frigate HMS Amethyst stationed in the city in the late 1940s. At this stage, it is thought Simon was approximately a year old, and was very undernourished and unwell. Hickinbottom smuggled the cat aboard ship, and Simon soon ingratiated himself with the crew and officers, particularly as he was adept at catching and killing the rats, which infested the lower decks. Simon rapidly gained a reputation for cheekiness, leaving presents of dead rats in sailors' beds and sleeping in the captain's cap.

    The crew viewed Simon as a lucky mascot, and when the ship's commander changed later in 1948, the outgoing Ian Griffiths left the cat for his successor Bernard Skinner, who took an immediate liking to the friendly cat. However, Skinner's first mission in command of the Amethyst was to travel up the Yangtze River to Nanking to replace the duty ship there, HMS Consort . Halfway up the river the ship became embroiled in the "Yangtze incident", when Chinese communist gun batteries opened fire on the frigate. One of the first rounds tore through the Captain's cabin, killing Skinner and seriously wounding Simon.

    The badly wounded cat crawled on deck, and was rushed to the medical bay, where the ship's surviving medical staff cleaned his burns and removed four pieces of shrapnel from Simon, who was not expected to last the night. He did manage to survive however and returned to his former duties in spite of the dislike he faced from the new captain. Whilst beached in the river the ship had become overrun with rats, and Simon took on the task of removing them with vigour, as well as being used in the sick bay to raise the morale of wounded teenage sailors.

    Following the ship's escape from the river, Simon became an instant celebrity, lauded in British and World news and presented with the "Animal VC ", the Dickin Medal as well as a Blue Cross medal, and Amethyst campaign medal and the fanciful rank of "Able Seacat". Thousands of letters were written to him, so much that one of Amethyst officers was detailed solely to answer Simon's post. At every port Amethyst stopped at on its route home, Simon was presented with honour, and a special welcome was made for him at Plymouth in November when the ship returned. Simon was however, like all animals entering the UK, subject to quarantine regulations and spent his time in an animal centre in Surrey.

    There Simon contracted a virus and, despite the attentions of medical staff and thousands of well-wishers, passed away on November 28, 1949 from a complication of the viral infection caused by his war wounds. Hundreds, including the entire crew of HMS Amethyst attended his funeral in Ilford in East London, and his gravestone reads:
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    IN MEMORY OF"SIMON"
    SERVED IN
    H.M.S. AMETHYST
    MAY 1948 - SEPTEMBER 1949
    AWARDED DICKIN MEDAL
    AUGUST 1949
    DIED 28TH NOVEMBER 1949.
    THROUGHOUT THE YANGTZE INCIDENT
    HIS BEHAVIOUR WAS OF THE HIGHEST ORDER





    MaritimeQuest - Able Seacat Simon, DM, RN (1947-1949) Page 1
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    I wonder if Si was the originator of the CatsPaw Knot?

    catspaw knot - Google Search

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    I wonder if Si was the originator of the CatsPaw Knot?

    catspaw knot - Google Search
    Perhaps the first CATastrophy?
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Or CATalytic .

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    Or perhaps even Transmoggierified.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    I wonder if Si was the originator of the CatsPaw Knot?

    catspaw knot - Google Search
    Just in case this was a serious question [ hard to tell sometimes] I'd better give a serious answer. The catspaw knot is a twisting hitch made in the bight of a rope to form two eyes , through which the hook of a tackle is passed for lifting purposes.

    The same name is given to a ruffle on the water indicating a breath of wind during a calm. Old sailors, on seeing a catspaw on the surface of the water, would frequently rub the ship's backstay [ as though fondling a cat] and whistle to induce the wind to come to the ship.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    So that then leads me to think the Great Australian Bight was named as such because the cartographer saw the similarity to the bight in a rope .

    dave

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    A 'Bight' is a geographical term but, your question raises the point. Was the word borrowed from the nautical term? It could well be the converse, too. The curve in a rope looks like a Bight.
    'sit bonum tempora volvunt'


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