Thread: Happy Australia Day

Originally Posted by bob10

The origins of Australia Day. Is it even the right date?

In addition the date of Australia Day sometimes raises brows. Indeed, in the History of New South Wales from the Records it’s noted that Arthur Phillip makes no mention in his report to England of the ceremony on 26 January 1788. And, it wasn’t until 7 February that the whole colony was formally assembled in Port Jackson, and Arthur Phillip was appointed Governor.





On this day: The origins of January 26 - Australian Geographic

Interesting as my 1980s was rather its a holiday unlike Anzac day .... "It wasn’t until 1946 that the name ‘Australia Day’ was adopted, and the ‘Australia Day Council’ was appointed to oversee its celebration."

Happy every day Aussies

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Ironically the date Australia was occupied - the country was not even called Australia and at the time it was only the east coast of New Holland that the British were “claiming” as the Colony of New South Wales. The west coast wasn’t even part of the claim at the time - that came 41 years later.

So I get it is seen as Foundation Day - especially for NSW, but we do need to acknowledge it remains a day of mourning for many as well. Certainly has nothing to do with becoming Australia.

The very first “Australia Day” was held on the 30 July 1915 to support the war effort as a national day to stir up patriotic feelings.

Time we find a date we can truly celebrate being Australian (“one and free”) - as the original Australia Day committee envisaged - and not to recognise NSW being founded as a British Penal Colony.

The real fist Australian was possibly 45,000–50,000 years ago. The day is interesting guess I assume

Australian Aboriginal peoples | History, Facts, & Culture | Britannica

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

The real first Australian was possibly 45,000–50,000 years ago. The day is interesting guess I assume

Australian Aboriginal peoples | History, Facts, & Culture | Britannica

....that’s one more public holiday we can add - First Nations Day.

Originally Posted by bob10

I think it is important that we celebrate something like Australia day for a reason. Like the US celebrates the 4th of July. Australia Day should really be the date of Federation. That's the 1st January , 1901. Or the opening of the first Parliament. 9th May 1901.

Australia became a nation on 1 January 1901, when the British Parliament passed legislation enabling the six Australian colonies to collectively govern in their own right as the Commonwealth of Australia.

Sure. Let's just let the current crop of politicians choose, or even better, the current opinion on twitter. Here in Victoria we celebrate Grand Final Day, even when it doesn't happen here ( covid ), because a politician wanted to appease the trade union movement. Melbourne Show Day, or Cup Day, were fine for generations, but a politician cancelled those for his own gain. That what you want, Bob? Every National day, changed on the whim of a so called leader? How about Mao day? Stalin day?
Traditions are a part of every decent culture. Only weak, totalitarian, empty cultures seek to change them. It's called cancel culture nowadays, but Orwell wrote about it 70 years ago. The soviets rearranged history. The Chinese are doing it right now. Why do we need to follow those aresholes? Australia is a great country, or a least it was. People fought for it. You saluted the Flag yourself, in a cause you and I didn't believe in at the time, but you swore, so you did, because you swore. I still believe in the oath I took, even though I don't believe in the politicians. I didn't believe in them then either.
This current raft of cancel culture is despicable, but it won't last. it will be the socialists next, and I guess they will be welcomed by people with no grasp of history. If you don't believe me, take a look at the the good old USA, and Kamala Harris, the new POTUS. She is one piece of work.

Oh, one more thing; try getting on a plane overseas anytime soon. Virus?? Sure. Believe that and you'll believe anything.

Rant, sure, but I'll go away now.

'Sorry day' could also be a public holiday, you can reflect whilst enjoying your activities, as most people are just happy to score a day of and don't take in what the day actually reflects.
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Originally Posted by Tins

Sure. Let's just let the current crop of politicians choose, or even better, the current opinion on twitter. Here in Victoria we celebrate Grand Final Day, even when it doesn't happen here ( covid ), because a politician wanted to appease the trade union movement. Melbourne Show Day, or Cup Day, were fine for generations, but a politician cancelled those for his own gain. That what you want, Bob? Every National day, changed on the whim of a so called leader? How about Mao day? Stalin day?
Traditions are a part of every decent culture. Only weak, totalitarian, empty cultures seek to change them. It's called cancel culture nowadays, but Orwell wrote about it 70 years ago. The soviets rearranged history. The Chinese are doing it right now. Why do we need to follow those aresholes? Australia is a great country, or a least it was. People fought for it. You saluted the Flag yourself, in a cause you and I didn't believe in at the time, but you swore, so you did, because you swore. I still believe in the oath I took, even though I don't believe in the politicians. I didn't believe in them then either.
This current raft of cancel culture is despicable, but it won't last. it will be the socialists next, and I guess they will be welcomed by people with no grasp of history. If you don't believe me, take a look at the the good old USA, and Kamala Harris, the new POTUS. She is one piece of work.

Oh, one more thing; try getting on a plane overseas anytime soon. Virus?? Sure. Believe that and you'll believe anything.

Rant, sure, but I'll go away now.

You really should stay away from certain social media sites. They quite frankly do not tell the truth.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Interesting as my 1980s was rather its a holiday unlike Anzac day .... "It wasn’t until 1946 that the name ‘Australia Day’ was adopted, and the ‘Australia Day Council’ was appointed to oversee its celebration."

Happy every day Aussies

Interesting to see how we have evolved. Back in the day no one cared what it was called, as long as it was a holiday, and you could get a beer. Now, everyone wants to get in the act. We ARE a weird mob, alright.

Originally Posted by bob10

Interesting to see how we have evolved. Back in the day no one cared what it was called, as long as it was a holiday, and you could get a beer. Now, everyone wants to get in the act. We ARE a weird mob, alright.

I say we should let the descendants of anyone who was here on the 26 January 1788 have a postal vote to determine if this is an appropriate date.

This includes First Nations and First Fleet descendants.

Then we need two holidays - a day for when we became one and free as Australia (not a British Penal Colony) and a day for when we recognise and celebrate our First Nations people.

Then almost everyone is happy!