Road Safety or Revenue?

**Homestar** · 6th April 2021, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Old Farang

Canberrans wrongly believe mobile speed cameras exist to raise revenue. This is how they're really used

Canberrans wrongly believe mobile speed cameras exist to raise revenue. This is how they're really used - ABC News

Mobile speed cameras have been used on Canberra's roads for two decades — and they are as unpopular as ever.
The latest survey shows 61 per cent of Canberrans believe the technology's main purpose is to raise revenue (the ACT government has always denied this).

So with two new camera vans soon to be deployed, the ABC sought to prove, one way or another, whether the existing eight vans have been used to maximise the flow of dollars to Treasury.
The good news? The government could make much more money — millions of dollars extra each year — by tweaking slightly where it puts its cameras.
The bad news? It's not going to do this. Because despite what most Canberrans think, that's not the government's goal.

Yeah, not sure if I believe that - while it may be the case in Canberra but in the town I live in why put them on a road that has no known accidents where anyone was hurt or killed - but only after the speed limit was reduced from 70 to 50 due to safety reasons.

I’m sure there’s 100’s of similar stories so it isn’t hard to work out why most people think it’s a revenue raising exercise.

**RANDLOVER** · 6th April 2021, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by Homestar

Yeah, not sure if I believe that - while it may be the case in Canberra but in the town I live in why put them on a road that has no known accidents where anyone was hurt or killed...................

A couple of years after they opened a new freeway interchange near me there were a couple of (inexperienced) cops with a radar gun in the bend to change from one freeway to another where the limit drops to 70, they must of thought it was a great place, had all the prerequisites, hidden on a bend, downhill, with a limit decrease, excellent, except they didn't realise most people are scared to go round bends fast, definitely not a safety issue in that location as the painted concrete barriers were pristine, and I've never seen an accident there and drive it almost daily.

**350RRC** · 6th April 2021, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

A couple of years after they opened a new freeway interchange near me there were a couple of (inexperienced) cops with a radar gun in the bend to change from one freeway to another where the limit drops to 70, they must of thought it was a great place, had all the prerequisites, hidden on a bend, downhill, with a limit decrease, excellent, except they didn't realise most people are scared to go round bends fast, definitely not a safety issue in that location as the painted concrete barriers were pristine, and I've never seen an accident there and drive it almost daily.

Never seen any sort of speed camera or gun on a bend. Pretty sure that is not SOP because it's too easy to get off in court due to angles involved.

DL

**RANDLOVER** · 7th April 2021, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by 350RRC

Never seen any sort of speed camera or gun on a bend. Pretty sure that is not SOP because it's too easy to get off in court due to angles involved.

DL

Coppers were definitely inexperienced then.

**101RRS** · 7th April 2021, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by 350RRC

Pretty sure that is not SOP because it's too easy to get off in court due to angles involved.

DL

I dont see how as the recorded speed on the camera will always be slower than true speed - noting that the camera records speed towards it not the actual speed of the object if at an angle - its all in the vectors.

**Tombie** · 7th April 2021, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by 101RRS

I dont see how as the recorded speed on the camera will always be slower than true speed - noting that the camera records speed towards it not the actual speed of the object if at an angle - its all in the vectors.

Not even close to how the units work.

**3toes** · 7th April 2021, 09:34 PM

There can be a difference in the definitions in use between the road builders and the speed camera operators.

There was a 10 mile stretch of the M1 here in the U.K. that was upgraded to latest standards. They spent years on it

As soon as it opened the speed cameras were installed every mile as according to their rule book it was an unsafe road. Sad but true story

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