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    Quote Originally Posted by 101RRS View Post
    Electrical technicians will be higher paid.
    A Marine Engineering Officer's base salary on a Submarine is $ 81, 235. With allowances, it comes to $114,217 [c]

    OFFICER EXAMPLE (e.g. qualified Marine Engineer Submariner in third year of service)

    TOTAL PACKAGE: $114,217 P.A.
    PLUS generous superannuation




    This package is made up of:

    Pay (at least): $81,235 p.a.
    Your base salary once you have completed both military training and initial employment training

    Service allowance: $13,991 p.a.
    Paid to compensate you for the unique impacts service life may have on you and your family

    Uniform allowance: $682 p.a.
    Helps cover the cost of looking after your uniform

    Submariner Maritime allowance: $18,309 p.a.
    This is paid to compensate you for the impacts of working in a maritime environment you experience while serving in a submarine.

    Your salary will increase in line with your rank and time spent serving on submarines.

    Please note these figures do not include compulsory deductions for tax, meals, accommodation and utilities (as applicable).


    A Marine Technician submariner, third year of service , base rate is $ 53, 289. After allowances brings it to

    $ 86,008.

    SAILOR EXAMPLE (e.g. Marine Technician Submariner in third year of service)

    TOTAL PACKAGE: $86,008 P.A.
    PLUS generous superannuation




    This package is made up of:

    Pay (at least): $53,289 p.a.
    Your base salary once you have completed both military training and initial employment training

    Service allowance: $13,991 p.a.
    Paid to compensate you for the unique impacts service life may have on you and your family

    Uniform allowance: $419 p.a.
    Helps cover the cost of looking after your uniform

    Submariner Maritime allowance: $18,309 p.a.
    This is paid to compensate you for the impacts of working in a maritime environment you experience while serving in a submarine.

    Your salary will increase in line with your rank and time spent serving on submarines.

    Please note these figures do not include compulsory deductions for tax, meals, accommodation and utilities.





    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    A Marine Engineering Officer's base salary on a Submarine is $ 81, 235. With allowances, it comes to $114,217 [c]

    OFFICER EXAMPLE (e.g. qualified Marine Engineer Submariner in third year of service)

    TOTAL PACKAGE: $114,217 P.A.
    PLUS generous superannuation




    This package is made up of:

    Pay (at least): $81,235 p.a.
    Your base salary once you have completed both military training and initial employment training

    Service allowance: $13,991 p.a.
    Paid to compensate you for the unique impacts service life may have on you and your family

    Uniform allowance: $682 p.a.
    Helps cover the cost of looking after your uniform

    Submariner Maritime allowance: $18,309 p.a.
    This is paid to compensate you for the impacts of working in a maritime environment you experience while serving in a submarine.

    Your salary will increase in line with your rank and time spent serving on submarines.

    Please note these figures do not include compulsory deductions for tax, meals, accommodation and utilities (as applicable).


    A Marine Technician submariner, third year of service , base rate is $ 53, 289. After allowances brings it to

    $ 86,008.

    SAILOR EXAMPLE (e.g. Marine Technician Submariner in third year of service)

    TOTAL PACKAGE: $86,008 P.A.
    PLUS generous superannuation




    This package is made up of:

    Pay (at least): $53,289 p.a.
    Your base salary once you have completed both military training and initial employment training

    Service allowance: $13,991 p.a.
    Paid to compensate you for the unique impacts service life may have on you and your family

    Uniform allowance: $419 p.a.
    Helps cover the cost of looking after your uniform

    Submariner Maritime allowance: $18,309 p.a.
    This is paid to compensate you for the impacts of working in a maritime environment you experience while serving in a submarine.

    Your salary will increase in line with your rank and time spent serving on submarines.

    Please note these figures do not include compulsory deductions for tax, meals, accommodation and utilities.






    What does a Submariner Plumber get?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    What does a Submariner Plumber get?
    That would be a Marine technician. Used to be Shipwrights, back in the day. Shipwrights are no more.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    That would be a Marine technician. Used to be Shipwrights, back in the day. Shipwrights are no more.

    Fancy monikers but usually the same job. Shipwright was a good respectable & solid calling then.


    My old man set me up to work here at The SA Harbours Board as a Shipwright but something happened & I never did.

    I reckon I would have loved that job on Work Boats, Launches etc.

    Ah that's right, I met a sheila & that was that. Can't even recall her name now maybe she really was forgettable after all? Margaret or summat ??? So I became a Fridgie instead after I had tried making Big Royal Show Fruit Displays & Sign writing. Nearly tripped up to be a Firie in the SAFB but chickened out beforehand after watching blokes jumping off of the Hose Tower into a canvas Mat a million feet down.

    The Mat itself from that height looked about the size of a Threepenny Bit. I thought, "That is deffo not for you Dessie boy." **** no".

    Of course this was well before the Aerial Ladders of today & I believe the Rescue Mat was made obsolete years ago. 'elf & Safety I suppose. I guess too many fellers were missing the target on the mat. Arms folded across the chest & legs out in front in a sitting postion & not a pretty sight to clean up off the concrete in that pose. How the hell they believed that "Civvies" could be rescued in an Emergency using that apparatus was beyond me. A Firey to throw them off perhaps?

    Ok for a Qualified Firey to get down quickly though.


    Then there was the Hook Ladder Race up & down the Tower. No, not today .


    I could have been my Son in Law's Chief Officer by now. Or he mine?

    Ah Happy Days.Fire Brigade JUMP sHEET.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    Fancy monikers but usually the same job. Shipwright was a good respectable & solid calling then.


    My old man set me up to work here at The SA Harbours Board as a Shipwright but something happened & I never did.

    I reckon I would have loved that job on Work Boats, Launches etc.

    Ah that's right, I met a sheila & that was that. Can't even recall her name now maybe she really was forgettable after all? Margaret or summat ??? So I became a Fridgie instead after I had tried making Big Royal Show Fruit Displays & Sign writing. Nearly tripped up to be a Firie in the SAFB but chickened out beforehand after watching blokes jumping off of the Hose Tower into a canvas Mat a million feet down. Thought, "That is deffo not for you Dessie boy." **** no".

    Of course this was well before the Aerial Ladders of today & I believe the Rescue Mat was made obsolete years ago. 'elf & Safety I suppose. I guess too many fellers were missing the target on the mat. Arms folded across the chest & legs out in front & not a pretty sight to clean up off the concrete in that pose. How the hell they believed that "Civvies" could be rescued in an Emergency was beyond me.

    Ok for a Qualified Firey to get down quickly though.


    Then there was the Hook Ladder Race up the Tower. No not today .


    I could have been my Son in Law's Chief Officer by now. Or he mine?

    Ah Happy Days.
    Shipwrights evolved in the RAN, from genuine wood butchers, to glorified fridge mechs. , all evolving each time the government decided on a new " restructure ". One Chippie that made a name for himself was a friend of mine , Ian Hansen, who has become an internationally acclaimed Marine Artist. One of his paintings , of the Melbourne / Voyager collision, hangs [ or used to] in the AWM. Born in Bordertown, Qld claimed him , because he lived in Hervey Bay. Check out his story here; He was a very good boxer, as well. An artist who fights, go figure.

    IAN HANSEN MARINE ARTIST, renowned Australian maritime artist, Sydney
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Check out his Art Awards.




    ABOUT US

    Born in Bordertown SA 1948, Ian's childhood years were spent on the foreshore of Hervey Bay. It was here that his deep love of ships and the sea developed. By the age of 8 he was actively painting with water colours moving to oils when he was 11. His first oil survived and hangs in his Hunters Hill studio.

    Joining the Royal Australian Navy at 15 as an apprentice shipwright, he served 12 years reaching the rank of Chief Petty Officer. He saw active service in Vietnam 1967-68. Ian painted continually in off duty hours, recording the ships and scenes he observed during his travels. Prouds Art Gallery offered him his first one man exhibition in 1974 while he was still in the Navy, the success of this show convinced him to try becoming a full time artist once his service time expired in 1975.

    After a brief stint of cruising and painting on board a 38 ft yacht, he built a studio overlooking the Whitsunday Islands, this idealic location was too far from the art world and he returned to Sydney in 1981. Married with 3 children Ian lives in Hunters Hill, Sydney, his studio the converted stables in the rear garden.

    He regularly sails on his classic 45′ cutter 'Karalee', and crews on board the Barque 'James Craig' on her extended voyages. These trips reinforce Ian's deep understanding of the sea, his illustrated log books are always viewed with great interest by visitors to his studio.

    In 2000 Ian was invited by the Royal Australian Navy to go to East Timor and record the Navy's involvement during the crisis, he spent time on several ships sketching and painting, the resulting paintings now hang in the Navy's Fleet Headquarters. In 2002 Ian joined the Ice Ship 'Sir Hubert Wilkins' on a 5 week voyage to Antarctica, part of his illustrated log is reproduced on this site.
    Ian works mainly on commission, he exhibits with 'The Maritime Gallery at Mystic Seaport'. In Connecticut USA, the Gallery hosts 'The Annual International Art Exhibition' and since his first acceptance in 1987, Ian has won 6 major awards.
    In 2002 he was appointed one of the Gallery's 'Premier Artists', only 20 are appointed worldwide. Ian is a member of "Kevin Hills Top 10 Australian Artists" who exhibit their work several times each year.

    Ian is a Fellow of The Royal Art Society, a Fellow of The Australian Institute of History and Arts and a Fellow of The Australian Society of Marine Artists. His works hang in Government House Sydney, Sydney Stock Exchange, Australian National Maritime Museum, Sydney Heritage Fleet, Royal Australian Navy, Naval Historical Society, Royal Sydney Yacht Squadron, Lady Denman Museum, AMP building and many corporate and private collections throughout the World.

    In 2013, Ian was appointed as the official artist for the International Fleet Review '2013' commemorating the 100th Anniversary of the Royal Australian Navy.
    ART AWARDS


    • 2015 Hunters Hill Art Exhibition, Hunters Hill Art Prize
    • 2012 International Marine Art Exhibition Award of Excellence
    • 2010 International Marine Art Exhibition Thomas Wells Award
    • 2008 International Marine Art Exhibition Thomas Wells Award
    • 2005 International Marine Art Exhibition. Award of Excellence
    • 2004 International Marine Art Exhibition Thomas Wells Award
    • 2001 Royal Art Society Medal of Distinction
    • 2001 Art Scene Art Awards $10,000 First Prize
    • 1991 ACTA Australian Maritime Art Award Finalist
    • 1989 ACTA Australian Maritime Art Award Popular Choice Winner
    • 1987 International Marine Art Exhibition. Award of Excellence (Held at The Maritime Gallery at Mystic Seaport USA)
    • 1987 ACTA Australian Maritime Art Award Finalist
    • 1986 ACTA Australian Maritime Art Award Finalist
    • 1985 ACTA Australian Maritime Art Award Finalist
    • 1961 Wide Bay & Burnett Exhibition of Arts, ‘ Champion Picture of Exhibition’ 1st, 2nd, & 3rd prize Children’s Section



    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Shipwrights evolved in the RAN, from genuine wood butchers, to glorified fridge mechs. , all evolving each time the government decided on a new " restructure ". One Chippie that made a name for himself was a friend of mine , Ian Hansen, who has become an internationally acclaimed Marine Artist. One of his paintings , of the Melbourne / Voyager collision, hangs [ or used to] in the AWM. Born in Bordertown, Qld claimed him , because he lived in Hervey Bay. Check out his story here; He was a very good boxer, as well. An artist who fights, go figure.

    IAN HANSEN MARINE ARTIST, renowned Australian maritime artist, Sydney

    Some nice images there bob. I particularly like the Dogger Bank Fisher & the Hervey Bay Outer Channel Buoy being sort of solitary. I like solitaries. I'm sure there are heaps more there if only they'd stop whistling past my screen.

    The Hansen name of Hervey reminds me that my old Boss was a Hansen & he had a son a PO or CPO in the RAN & could have lived up there in Hervey. His dad (Jim) didn't, but that doesn't mean Lewis did or didn't. Just a thought that you may have some knowledge or if it is the same family. I spent many happy hours with Lewis driving all over the state when he came in to work & his dad sent him out with the the Vans to get him out of his hair I guess. Then he enlisted.

    Would have been back in the 'nam days as the Co were building walk in Refrigerated Freezers/Storage, Aux powered cabinets at that time for the Army Engineers.


    Just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4bee View Post
    Some nice images there bob. I particularly like the Dogger Bank Fisher & the Hervey Bay Outer Channel Buoy being sort of solitary. I like solitaries. I'm sure there are heaps more there if only they'd stop whistling past my screen.

    The Hansen name of Hervey reminds me that my old Boss was a Hansen & he had a son a PO or CPO in the RAN & could have lived up there in Hervey. His dad (Jim) didn't, but that doesn't mean Lewis did or didn't. Just a thought that you may have some knowledge or if it is the same family. I spent many happy hours with Lewis driving all over the state when he came in to work & his dad sent him out with the the Vans to get him out of his hair I guess. Then he enlisted.

    Would have been back in the 'nam days as the Co were building walk in Refrigerated Freezers/Storage, Aux powered cabinets at that time for the Army Engineers.


    Just a thought.
    Can't really help you there, Ian is his name. One amazing fact is, Ian is completely self taught, been painting since the age of 8.

    Self taught and actively painting at 8 with watercolours, won The Wide Bay and Burnett Districts Art Prize when he was only 12 as well as 1st 2nd & 3rd prize in the children's section. At this stage he was giving a set of oil paints and became totally entranced with this medium.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Can't really help you there, Ian is his name. One amazing fact is, Ian is completely self taught, been painting since the age of 8.

    Self taught and actively painting at 8 with watercolours, won The Wide Bay and Burnett Districts Art Prize when he was only 12 as well as 1st 2nd & 3rd prize in the children's section. At this stage he was giving a set of oil paints and became totally entranced with this medium.

    No prob bob. See what I did there? As the Hansen name is the common denominator & in Hervey it was worth asking the question. He could have been a rellie eg. A nephew?


    If your one is like my blokes, he'll do.

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    Hmm, well this is something new:

    Indonesia's sunken submarine may have been hit by a powerful force known as an internal wave


    Indonesia's sunken submarine may have been hit by a powerful force known as an internal wave - ABC News

    As an Indonesian navy submarine crewed by 53 men glided below the surface of the Bali Sea during a routine training exercise, it may have been hit by an invisible but powerful force that dragged them to the deep.

    Indonesian navy officials suspect an internal solitary wave, known to occur in the seas around Bali, may have caused the sinking of KRI Nanggala 402, and the loss of its 53 crew.

    The vessel sank to a depth of 838 metres, far beyond the reach of rescuers.

    Many theories have been put forward but
    authorities now say there is evidence an underwater wave — that can exert an intense vertical pull below the sea surface — occurred in the Bali Sea around the very time the submarine disappeared last Wednesday morning.



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