Thread: Which car?

I was about to say - Skoda Kodiaq...But it’s European. Doh

Originally Posted by Discodicky

Seriously, is there ANY CVT which is nice to drive?
Asking for my wife who is about to buy a new 'small' car, eg, Suzuki, Mits, Honda etc.
From comments I hear over the past months, they are all pretty much forgettable.
Who doesn't have a CVT these days as that is the small car I'd be interested in.

The Honda ones are apparently not too bad. I drove a CVT jazz many years ago and it was ok. My parents just bought a CRV and they said the Honda CVT is miles ahead of the mitsu one in the outlander.

Originally Posted by gromit

I'm looking at replacing my diesel Territory ( 3rd Terri, one petrol and currently on the second diesel).
40K usage per year, over 2 tonne tow capacity, 7 seats would be nice.
Currently looking at the Pajero Sport but haven't driven one yet, those tail lights are a bit 'special' though.
10 year warranty ( need to read the small print).
Everest is a possibility but not sure about either of the motor options and a bit exxy.

Some interesting comments in this thread about other brands and yes, confusing.

Colin

Part of the 10 year warranty is a dealership warranty that Mitsubishi make them provide as part of the purchase price. I don’t think we’ll know how this is honoured for some time yet, but I wouldn’t expect too many dramas from the vehicle for at least 5 years and a couple of 100,000km.

Originally Posted by DoubleChevron

How much are the new defenders? they look like a pretend 4wd (dumb wheels, low profile treads .... ). I bet its tow capacity is good .... and I'm sure it has excellent ride quality (lets be honest here .... NONE of them are going offroad .... )

I've never been in a renault that doesn't have big soft seats and soft suspension .... Hopefully nothing has changed.

Renault Koleos review: The 2020 SUV you probably forgot about. Comes w/ Apple CarPlay + Android Auto - YouTube

Intersting, I just watch his summation at the end (i can't be bothered watching the rest). Yeah, sounds like good renault seating and ride quality. I"m not really a fan of CVT though.

seeya,
Shane L.

New Deefer is around $30K more than my max budget for a base spec unit so way out of my league unfortunately. It’s also European which counts it out too - as it does for the Renault.

FYI the reason I’m discounting Euro offerings is 2 fold. Firstly I don’t consider them good value for money - the specs are generally much lower until you pile in the money for all the extras whereas the Jap/Thailand/Korean offerings have much better feature lists as standard. This is plainly evident when you look at what my Son and his Partner bought - a mid spec VW Golf and a Kia Cerato. The Kia has way more features even in the base spec although Sons is the GT. All the tech is standard through the entire range - just the comfy bits get comfier as the spec level goes up. Kia has twice the warranty and leaves the golf in the dust performance wise and was $9,000 cheaper. The VW has been back to then dealers 3 times for warranty work in the last 18 months and the Kia zero (apart from servicing). The Kia has 20,000KM more on the clock now too. Build quality of the Kia is almost a match for the VW so I just don’t see why people would buy them to be honest.

Second reason I’ll probably cop some grief over but I just don’t see them as reliable enough for me overall - yes I’m sure everyone here will have a story of how great theirs is but they don’t come with anywhere near as good warranty, customer service or reviews overall. Sorry but it’s just the way I feel about them. Love older stuff, wouldn’t touch anything new from over there. There are also specific brands I would count out just because - Like VW or any in their stable (Skoda, Audi, Seat) because they are just lying arseholes about pretty much everything , Renault - sorry, I’m a Pom and just wouldn’t drive one.

I think it’s between the Subaru Outback and the Paj Sport currently. Will go take a closer look at each and test drive them. I like both the interior and exterior of the Outback but have reservations about the trans and engine combo and I’m not a fan of the Paj Sport exterior but I don’t mine the interior - which is what I’ll be looking at most of the time so interior is more important as far as that goes and of course how comfortable it is to drive, noise levels etc. The more refined ride is likely to be the winner.

I could hate the way they drive and be back to the drawing board.

Originally Posted by Homestar

This is generally a question that is fraught with danger but here goes. There’s a chance I could be leaving the work Hilux and getting into something more comfortable. Don’t go yota bashing, it’s been a great car - but after 5 years and 200,000KM I’m after something that rides a bit better (I think an upholstered brick would, but anyway).

Shopping list is as follows - Please don’t put down options I’ve specifically excluded here - I’ve been doing a tonne of research and anything excluded is for a reason. Must have list is just that, so please don’t suggest vehicles that don’t meet this lists spec.

-Mid sized SUV or wagon
-All wheel drive, or selectable 4WD - AWD preferred.
-Minimum 2000Kg towing capacity - it won’t need to tow much very often but if I grab a dingo or similar from work it needs to be able to tow it.
-Leather interior - or Pug proof fabric.
-Budget up to $60K - $65K at a pinch if I found exactly what I wanted.
-Prefer Diesel
-Prefer full sized spare

I have short listed several vehicles but wondering what others opinions are before I list those. Below is a list of vehicles I won’t consider or have already struck off the list.

NOT the following- these have been excluded for a variety of reasons, from didn’t like interiors to ‘I wouldn’t be caught dead in that’
Anything European.
Ford.
Kia Sorento.
Mazda CX-9
Hyundai Palasade
Utes, trays, etc.
Haval, LDV, etc

Contenders so far are-
Hyundai Sante Fe.
Pros - meets all the specs, Cons - Not sure I like the inside.
Subaru Outback.
Pros - looks good, meets spec. Cons - engine options - only comes in NA Petrol.
Mazda CX-8
Pros - meets spec, Cons - It’s a Mazda and I don’t overly like the look of them.

So, what others can you think of that meets all of this???

TIA.

In bold, same car

Originally Posted by Redback

In bold, same car

Which ones? Can’t see anything in bold? If you mean the Sorento and Sante fe, yes the base driveline is identical but the interiors are very different. Kia is out as it’s fugly as. Sante Fe is still in but lower on my list as I don’t hate it as much.

Originally Posted by Homestar

Part of the 10 year warranty is a dealership warranty that Mitsubishi make them provide as part of the purchase price. I don’t think we’ll know how this is honoured for some time yet, but I wouldn’t expect too many dramas from the vehicle for at least 5 years and a couple of 100,000km.

Just been looking at Everest vs. Pajero Sport.
Looks like I might have to try and get a good deal on an Everest, probably the 2 litre bi-turbo.
Both 3.1tonne tow capacity but Everest much bigger in the 2nd row and more space all round.
Don't need 4WD as it will be mostly a work/family vehicle.

Pros & cons with everything I've looked at.
Just need to get tyres & the cambelt done on the Terri while still on 'business' so later this year I have to make up my mind. Ford dealer is well trained now and looks after me.

Colin

Get the outback you'll be happy with it for sure go and buy it right now threads closed pics of the new ride please thx