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Originally Posted by Tombie

Don’t be sucked in.

By using this situation, your government there is manipulating a completely different agenda that has nothing to do with Omicron or the bug in general.

Dig a little deeper - your safety from Covid hasn’t been improved, however a heap of WA citizens have had/are having their freedoms and rights eroded right under your noses.

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The safety from COV19 has been greatly improved by keeping the gate shut at the expense of a few people that can't go on hoilday for a little bit longer.
Not a bad trade off in my book[thumbsupbig]

There’s 82 known cases - in the East RAT reporting showed that original figures were way wrong. I’m pretty confident it’s the same in the West to a lesser extent.

What people are missing is that in a normal year the number of hospitalisation and deaths for colds/flu etc usually outnumbers where we are at for the entire pandemic in AU.

And that in most cases Covid was just the final trigger for the underlying condition triggered.

Yes, it’s nasty. So is pneumonia or the flu if your body is already compromised or even just “old”.

Of the 20 or so people I know personally that have had this latest strain - you feel like crap for a few days and then come good. As long as there’s nothing else to influence the outcome.

WA people can’t hide behind a border forever, and this big isn’t going away.

Great idea to get jabbed and then have efficacy wane then open the border.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

The safety from COV19 has been greatly improved by keeping the gate shut at the expense of a few people that can't go on hoilday for a little bit longer.
Not a bad trade off in my book[thumbsupbig]

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Tell that to the plethora of people suffering serious mental health issues caused by it.

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Originally Posted by Tombie

Tell that to the plethora of people suffering serious mental health issues caused by it.

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Tell that to the eleven people that lost their lives to this virus is SA yesterday, Opening up the State didn't do those people any favors did it.

WA has had 1338 COV19 cases and 9 deaths in TOTAL, Yesterday SA had 3777 NEW cases and 11 deaths in a single day.
Now tell me exactly in which shape or form SA has done a better job at protecting its population from this virus than WA has.

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

At the current rate WA will still be doing the same in 50 years time - WA does have to face reality at some stage - however vaccinations are still way behind every one else and the health system has not be upgraded to deal with the possible Omocron onslaught - now wait maybe on reflection it is best to stay locked up to allow the infrastructure and vaccination rate to catch up to be able to deal with the virus but at the current rate of progress is likely to be 50 years before anything happens.

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WA's first dose rate is actually now higher than NSW and the 2nd dose % is not far behind. Our hospital system is actually the highest resourced in Australia. We are prepared.

We are now wearing masks indoors in the SW of WA, and now we ask why? If we're going to have restrictions, what's the long term benefit we get from them...?

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

Hey Trout , I sympathise with you, we have already been given covidgeddon by our govt successing actions plus 600,000 mexicans so badly needing to rush over the border to Queensland and they dont even have to be checked or tested.

that figure was post xmas/new year so is probably much higher.

thank the Flying Spaghetti Monster that the 10,000,000 international tourists normally coming (flying) into Qld are being controlled.

It makes me feel so angry that on 24th December 2021 we were mostly covid clean and in less than a month it has already come to this.

You are probably lucky to live where you do.

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It makes me feel so angry that on 24th December 2021 we were mostly covid clean and in less than a month it has already come to this.

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And so say all of us RB.

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Originally Posted by trout1105

If you call 82 active cases in the entire State "out of control" How would you describe what is happening in the other States at the moment.?
There were 122 active cases on 16th Jan and today there are 82 active cases, Those figures do Not suggest that this is "Out of control" at all.

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Ok when do you propose WA open up? It has to happen at some stage and with your poor hospital system and low vaccination rate it is going to go through your population like a dose of salts - all other jurisdictions decided to bite the bullet and get it over with and the peak is past with the virus now having trouble finding new hosts to infect - the virus will look to unvaccinated WAs to infect.

I can understand the concerns but when will it be the right time to open up?

Based on talkback and other public comment, 50% of the population think it is time to open up.

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Ok when do you propose WA open up? It has to happen at some stage and with your poor hospital system and low vaccination rate it is going to go through your population like a dose of salts - all other jurisdictions decided to bite the bullet and get it over with and the peak is past with the virus now having trouble finding new hosts to infect - the virus will look to unvaccinated WAs to infect.

I can understand the concerns but when will it be the right time to open up?

Based on talkback and other public comment, 50% of the population think it is time to open up.

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As for vaccination rates and the rediness of our hospital system Have a look at cjc-td5's post above[thumbsupbig]
As for 50% of West Australians wanting to open up I consider that to be a rather spurious/fanciful claim

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Originally Posted by trout1105

Tell that to the eleven people that lost their lives to this virus is SA yesterday, Opening up the State didn't do those people any favors did it.

WA has had 1338 COV19 cases and 9 deaths in TOTAL, Yesterday SA had 3777 NEW cases and 11 deaths in a single day.
Now tell me exactly in which shape or form SA has done a better job at protecting its population from this virus than WA has.

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Agree any death is saddening - however there needs to be context.

Those 11 people, if doing their normal pre-Covid routine would be subjected to all forms of other viruses etc. their underlying conditions were detrimental to their ability to fight what is indicating as a significantly milder version of virus.

As per statically data for all preceding years for deaths by influenza- there should be more deceased than there currently is.

Some good news:
We in Australia are currently referred to as “Flu Zero”

Compared to the number of influenza cases, by case ratio it’s been far worse to us in Australia than Covid

2017 - 1181 deaths
2018 - 148
2019 - 902
2020 - 36
2021 - none

With Covid at over 2 million cases there has sadly and unfortunately been ~2900 deaths in 2+ years.

The survival rate for Covid is far better than influenza.

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