Covid Mk ll

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Originally Posted by vnx205

I understand why it suits politicians to misrepresent the views of their opposition, but it would be disappointing if that practice spread to our forum.

People who advocate lockdowns are generally not arguing we should employ them "forever" (as a certain politician has said). Most of them mean we use them just as much as is necessary to get things under control.

Conversely those who oppose them generally don't mean we "let it rip" with no restrictions whatsoever. Most of them mean that we should only employ the minimum number of restrictions needed to stop things getting out of hand.

The claim that the other side is advocating either all or nothing is a lazy, dishonest argument.

Some politicians and some of the general public seem unaware that there are such things as moderation, subtlety, nuance, and compromise.

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Here is the Doherty report to Government. I find this interesting;

When defining overall target coverage thresholds for the eligible population, it is vital to consider the distribution of doses received across all age categories, which will impact on population level outcomes of the program in different ways:• Older individuals are more likely to experience severe disease outcomes, making them an early priority group for vaccine protection in Australia’s COVID-19 vaccine rollout;• Young and working age adults are peak transmitters of COVID-19. Increasing the proportional coverage in these groups will have a greater impact to reduce transmission.

DohertyModelling_NationalPlan_and_Addendum_2021081 0.pdf

Proof the National surveillance program ie the testing of truck drivers every 7 days is working. Two truck drivers in Qld tested positive, but because of the National program, they are not considered a risk to Qld.

Queensland records six new cases of COVID-19, two truck drivers under investigation (msn.com)

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Originally Posted by bob10

Yes it seemed so obvious. It's the people of the Tweed who suffer over this intransigence.

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Just move the border north to above the Gold Coast and make everything south part of NSW - all solved [thumbsupbig].

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Just move the border north to above the Gold Coast and make everything south part of NSW - all solved [thumbsupbig].

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Or move the border South of Byron Bay and make everything North part of Qld. [biggrin]

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Just move the border north to above the Gold Coast and make everything south part of NSW - all solved [thumbsupbig].

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nooooo......then they'll want to bring in daylight saving.

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Originally Posted by bob10

All indications are Qld will resist opening up too early, without proper restrictions in place, will still rely on targeted lockdowns, and closure of the border, under the advice of the CHO, as per the Constitution. Our CHO has said she thinks 90% is the target we should be aiming for, if so, a long way to go yet here, not quite 50 % ATM I believe.

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Well why did your Premier agree in National Cabinet?

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Originally Posted by Homestar

Or move the border South of Byron Bay and make everything North part of Qld. [biggrin]

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Nah not a good idea - my idea is better [thumbsupbig]

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Just move the border north to above the Gold Coast and make everything south part of NSW - all solved [thumbsupbig].

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There goes the thread, thought this was supposed to be a serious discussion. Where are you 4BEE?

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Originally Posted by 101RRS

Well why did your Premier agree in National Cabinet?

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The National Cabinet agreement was predicated on 30 cases. You haven't been paying attention.

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Originally Posted by DiscoDB

…hence why I said once vaccines have been given to every one who wants one.

Hopefully this is at least 90% of those eligible - but to expect fully vaccinated people to accept ongoing lockdowns is not going to happen.

A tipping point in the debate is coming, and politicians are already reading the polling data.

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nail on the head mate.
and if people want to keep themselves isolated and locked down, there is nothing stopping them. if people want to continue wearing a mask, people can do that too.
manage your own risk.