Covid Mk ll

**ozscott** · 17th February 2022, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by Arapiles

The ABS report deals with the "from" and "with" distinction - evidently people who are medically trained (i.e., doctors) are making that call when they lodge their reports, and they're doing so in line with the agreed definitions, including, apparently, WHO ones.

But if you're suggesting that deaths from Covid are actually rare and the whole thing's a massive, all-encompassing conspiracy between all levels of Government and all of the political parties - Liberal, Labor, Greens - and the media, and the entire medical profession, then I think that you're going to have to explain, for example, how a bunch of political parties that can't govern themselves could be so organised.

Kind of ironic given that you're in Queensland which has had bugger-all infections or restrictions over the last two years. I've had three jobs during the pandemic and I would've been in the respective offices maybe a month in total since November 2019 - and that's across all three jobs. I literally didn't recognise one of my new colleagues the other day when she was standing outside a bar we were all meeting at.

No-one is going to force you to have boosters, same way no-one forces you to get the updated flu-vax every year. But Covid is probably now endemic, like the flu, and some years it'll be good and some years it'll be bad: I'll be getting any updates that are offered.

ABS reports seem to be well done. And in Qld we have been very lucky with very temporary loss of 'liberties' (whatever they are...we dont have the bill of rights like the US, yet we still do OK). I think in Qld we dont have much clue about loss of freedoms. (Edit - ie we havent lost them due to Covid19).

Cheers

**V8Ian** · 17th February 2022, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by ChookD2

For some unknown reason when politicians are elected they get the title "The Honourable". This title should be earned not just bestowed because people voted for you, very few are actually "honourable".

I reckon you wouldn't need to drop you pants to count the number of politicians that deserve this title, in fact you wouldn't even need to take your shoes and socks off.

Said the one handed man.

**4bee** · 17th February 2022, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by Arapiles

The Governor General has no power to remove all elected members of Parliament.

Edit: ..... and a double-dissolution is at the request of the Prime Minister.

Yes, wouldn't it be sweet to see everyone out on their arrises with all new faces happily taking on those jobs, not that the thought of a wonderful Remuneration & perks tempered their decision. Heaven forbid!
This is a fanciful notion even if true but any future bunch that gains Govt. would already have been tarred with the same brush as the bunch who are there now. They may go into it believing they are honest & caring but as human nature shows, they would all be back to square 1 in a few months when they see what fruits are available to them & their mates. Human weakness/nature take over.

The Public Service would also need to get the chop & start from scratch. An impossibility or Pie in the Sky I'm afraid.

**V8Ian** · 17th February 2022, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by ozscott

ABS reports seem to be well done. And in Qld we have been very lucky with very temporary loss of 'liberties' (whatever they are...we dont have the bill of rights like the US, yet we still do OK). I think in Qld we dont have much clue about loss of freedoms.

Cheers

Better to temporarily lose a few "liberties" than one's life.
I think it was more a minor inconvenience, rather than a loss of freedom or rights.

**ozscott** · 17th February 2022, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Better to temporarily lose a few "liberties" than one's life.
I think it was more a minor inconvenience, rather than a loss of freedom or rights.

I agree Ian. It didnt worry me. But even if some peope (ie in this thread and elsewhere) describe it as something stronger, in the end it was well worth it.

Cheers

**ramblingboy42** · 17th February 2022, 02:25 PM

I just looked this up
A Governor-General may dismiss an incumbent Prime Minister and Cabinet, an individual Minister, or any other official who holds office during the Queen’s pleasure or during the pleasure of the Governor-General. In addition, the Governor-General can dissolve Parliament and call elections without the Prime Minister’s approval.

**101RRS** · 17th February 2022, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

I just looked this up
A Governor-General may dismiss an incumbent Prime Minister and Cabinet, an individual Minister, or any other official who holds office during the Queen’s pleasure or during the pleasure of the Governor-General. In addition, the Governor-General can dissolve Parliament and call elections without the Prime Minister’s approval.

Was all done in 1975 - also the PM can ask the Queen to remove the GG - in 1975 it was a race to see who would sack who first and the GG won.

**4bee** · 17th February 2022, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

I just looked this up
A Governor-General may dismiss an incumbent Prime Minister and Cabinet, an individual Minister, or any other official who holds office during the Queen’s pleasure or during the pleasure of the Governor-General. In addition, the Governor-General can dissolve Parliament and call elections without the Prime Minister’s approval.

Bloody Hell! I wouldn't like to cross him then.

Don't forget, he is also Ex-Army & probably pretty good with an F1 SMG.

Thought bubble.
I wonder how he goes with stroppy French neighbors? Guillotine perchance?

Poor Elizabeth.R

Cutting Oz out of the Commonwealth would allow her some decent kip instead of her laying there in the dark pondering what those bloody Orstralians are cooking up for her in the morning news.

She'd be thinking ......"They are more bloody strife than Harry & Andrew put together. "

Tread carefully SCOMO there are rumblings afoot.

Petition * Governor General to dismiss Scott Morrison as Prime Minister of Australia * Change.org

**Arapiles** · 17th February 2022, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

I just looked this up
A Governor-General may dismiss an incumbent Prime Minister and Cabinet, an individual Minister, or any other official who holds office during the Queen’s pleasure or during the pleasure of the Governor-General. In addition, the Governor-General can dissolve Parliament and call elections without the Prime Minister’s approval.

(a) Any such power is limited by conventions; and

(b) that's not the same thing as removing every member of parliament in some form of Vice-Regal coup.

**DiscoDB** · 17th February 2022, 05:09 PM

OMG - are we rolling the government!

I thought the ABS data was insightful but gee that escalated quickly.

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